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Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by vacri »

tdicola wrote: post #3
trevyn wrote: post #2

I am deeply frustrated that there is absolutely zero sense of scale in this visualization. How big are people? How big are the camps? I have no idea.

One crazy way to think about it, looking down at base camp at ~17,000 feet you're looking at a spot that's higher than almost all the mountains in the US.

Driving into Colorado from the west, I drove over a mountain pass that was something like 12000 ft high. When I got to my destination, I thought I'd convert that into meters and compare to the mountains back home in Australia. 12000' is 3600m... and the tallest mountain back home is Kosciuszko, which is 2200m high. I'd just driven over a pass 50% higher than the peak of the tallest mountain back home...

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Post by shutupalready »

I've never seen a photo or visualization that gives a feel for the size of the area at the summit of Everest. There are thousands of photos taken at summit of course, but it's always someone standing on the summit himself, so you don't know how much space is behind the photographer.

According to this source http://www.alanarnette.com/everest/everestsouthroutes.php the summit is 30 square feet (or 3 square meters). I'd still love to see an close-up aerial photo from a helicopter or plane directly overhead.

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by vacri »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #39

It's nice to see the Sherpa getting some acknowledgement. I never understood why, when a rich white dude pays tens of thousands of dollars for a bunch of other dudes to scout a path, clear out obstacles, set up camps and caches, and carefully escort him up a mountain, it's the rich white dude who gets the credit and glory. I mean, it's still a pretty impressive achievement, but it's not half so impressive as the guys…

I imagine that amongst the Sherpa, it's the guides that get the recognition, and one rich white is much the same as another. Cultures tend to lionise their own members.

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Post by vacri »

contingencies wrote: post #10
zzleeper wrote: post #4

Never loaded..

Same here. I don't see why privacy invading JS bloat from facebook, twitter, google analytics or scorecardresearch should be critical for its operation.

Google Analytics can give a lot of insights to the webmaster about how a site is being used. The others? Meh.

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by dbpatterson »

shutupalready wrote: post #42

I've never seen a photo or visualization that gives a feel for the size of the area at the summit of Everest. There are thousands of photos taken at summit of course, but it's always someone standing on the summit himself, so you don't know how much space is behind the photographer. According to this source http://www.alanarnette.com/everest/everestsouthroutes.php the summit is 30 square feet (or 3 square meters). I'…

You won't find helicopter - air is too thin (one of the reasons why rescues are hard). But maybe a plane could give you one.

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Post by TheHydroImpulse »

shutupalready wrote: post #42

I've never seen a photo or visualization that gives a feel for the size of the area at the summit of Everest. There are thousands of photos taken at summit of course, but it's always someone standing on the summit himself, so you don't know how much space is behind the photographer. According to this source http://www.alanarnette.com/everest/everestsouthroutes.php the summit is 30 square feet (or 3 square meters). I'…

There was a hot air balloon expedition that went over the summit of Everest. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03mp9gp

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by shutupalready »

TheHydroImpulse wrote: post #46
shutupalready wrote: post #42

I've never seen a photo or visualization that gives a feel for the size of the area at the summit of Everest. There are thousands of photos taken at summit of course, but it's always someone standing on the summit himself, so you don't know how much space is behind the photographer. According to this source http://www.alanarnette.com/everest/everestsouthroutes.php the summit is 30 square feet (or 3 square meters). I'…

There was a hot air balloon expedition that went over the summit of Everest. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03mp9gp

Thank you.

I get "Not currently available on BBC iPlayer" when I try to play it, but I did find the same video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E4P...

I linked to the time when the balloon crosses over Everest (40 minutes 56 seconds).

It's still not close enough to give a real feel of how big the summit is.

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by allochthon »

Really enjoyed the visualization, even if it was a little hard to get a sense of the scale.

With no flat area, Camp 3 looks like a bear to stay at. If anyone is curious, wind speeds get up to an estimated 175 mph (78 m/s) at the summit [1]. I would be worried about being whisked off of the top of the summit.

[1] http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/extreme-we...

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by the_cat_kittles »

js2 wrote: post #37
davidjohnstone wrote: post #8

This is the thing that I was wishing existed a couple of months ago when I read "Into Thin Air". It's a fantastic read about the 1996 Mount Everest disaster where eight climbers died, but I often had difficulty visualising what was going on. (There's also a film, Everest, due out next year.) To be better convey what it's like to climb Everest, I think this visualisation would be improved if it had more annotations ab…

I'd like to recommmend Touching the Void, an amazing mountaineering/survival story. Was also made into a movie that the author of the book seems to have favorable opinion of.

the video documentary is absolutely incredible! the perseverance of the stranded climber is so inspiring.

Re: Mt Everest in 3D: Everest Avalanche Tragedy

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Post by hellsten »

dbpatterson wrote: post #45
shutupalready wrote: post #42

I've never seen a photo or visualization that gives a feel for the size of the area at the summit of Everest. There are thousands of photos taken at summit of course, but it's always someone standing on the summit himself, so you don't know how much space is behind the photographer. According to this source http://www.alanarnette.com/everest/everestsouthroutes.php the summit is 30 square feet (or 3 square meters). I'…

You won't find helicopter - air is too thin (one of the reasons why rescues are hard). But maybe a plane could give you one.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0509/whats_new/h...
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