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Re: Why we made this site

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post #19

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Making the site invite-only would be the opposite of what we want. One of the goals of this site is to discover smart people we might not otherwise notice when they apply for funding. Doing things through connections works well in the VC world. Because of the large investments they make, they're more conservative. But in the seed funding business you need to be aggressively democratic.

Paul, in that instance as a way to identify smart people it makes a lot of sense for it not to be invite only. But it has triggered my thinking about how to create dense communities around diverse knowledge areas. So it would be cool to do this with scientific papers and get people to register with university email addresses to generate trust and preserve fidelity. I know digg and reddit are pretty mainstream but all…

It is interesting to point out that Reddit already tried this platform for comments on scientific papers. arxiv.org has long been acknowledged as a forerunner to scientific e-publishing and is in fact a one-stop-shop for many subfields of physics, computer science, and almost all of mathematics. We thought it would be the perfect place to try to do something like what you suggested: to use a Reddit-like interface to collect comments and discussions on scientific literature. So Reddit set it up at arxiv.reddit.org.

As you can see, there is not much happening. In fact, the main lesson learned here was not that a reddit-like platform is not ideal to this type of knowledge pooling, but that the scientific community is in general skeptical about this type of information sharing. We did not require email address validation for logins (hence the spam you can see up there), but we did talk about it with a lot of people and there were good arguments on both sides. I talked with physicists, biologists and mathematicians about using this type of site, and the replies were mostly those of insecurity about sharing incomplete ideas: both because they might be wrong (and not many scientists like that), and because if they were right, they would rather keep it to themselves and publish it.

Actually Paul Ginsparg, the creator of arxiv.org, kind of warned us before we launched that it would take mostly a huge grass-roots effort to get scientists going on something like this. He was right, and from listening to some of his stories about how he started arxiv.org, it apparently took him over 5 years of grass-roots convincing before it took off, despite being clearly a very good idea.

If you are interested in scientific knowledge sharing, with an eye towards collaboration, check out openwetware.org, which uses the mediawiki wiki platform. Note that they actually do require account authentication, so have a lot less spam issues at this point. It seems like a wiki platform is more easily adopted for scientists (although still hesitantly), as the subreddit oww.reddit.com, which we tried to push to the openwetware community, has not taken off (this time because of concerns that Reddit is a company.)

Re: Why we made this site

#52
Paul cares about his users. He makes stuff we want. He always replies to emails. His influence reaches far beyond the Americas, across the pacific, to the island continent that I call home. Thanks mate, you changed our worlds!

Re: Why we made this site

#53
post #13

I up-voted a comment by mistake and there doesn't seem to be a way to remove my vote. One of the main reasons I was visiting Reddit in the beggining, was the high probability to find start-up articles and a place for discussion. So, this site is defenetely going to be my new point of reference, and for lots of others too.

'... I up-voted a comment ...'

don't up-vote *before* you commit a comment. News wipes the contents of the edit box.

Re: Why we made this site

#54

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HaHa! Yes thank you Paul, I was just about to swear off of Reddit for good, and this is the tipping point. I will probably still visit there to get my inane fun for the day, but I wont spend time looking through 4-5 pages of backlogs for the good articles.

Yes everyone I know has bailed from reddit. Too many alarmist political , Bush bashing, boring articles. Not enough interesting tech links.

'... everyone I know has bailed from reddit. ...'

what about 'programming' or 'joel' sub-reddits?

Re: Why we made this site

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comments on relevant sites is a good way to validate a persons ideas, domain knowledge, and thoughtfulness, but my main contribution's have been to TC, AVC, Flickr, and others, so I get no benefit from that here. Maybe a hot idea for a simple web 2.0 startup would be an aggregation tool of all comments by a user across the sites they use. Could work well with OpenID.

Maybe I'll add that to the question in the application that asks for "any other ideas you've considered" :

Re: Why we made this site

#56
post #3

You've filled a hole reddit was starting to dig(g) in my life. Thanks!

HaHa! Yes thank you Paul, I was just about to swear off of Reddit for good, and this is the tipping point. I will probably still visit there to get my inane fun for the day, but I wont spend time looking through 4-5 pages of backlogs for the good articles.

Yah, I think alpha geek crowd is getting diluted. It's beginning to reflect the tastes of the broader population. I think they need to work on their recomendaton engine to cater for individual preferences

Re: Why we made this site

#59
post #34
post #23

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OK, here's the question, pg, is this site actually running on a lightweight webserver written in ARC, or did you tie ARC into apache or something for the application logic and storage? Or did you use ARC as a markup language? Just curious.

The server's written in Arc too. I wanted to learn how to write one.

I'm having trouble using drakma to hit the site. I'm pretty new to Lisp so I'm still learning what I'm looking at, however it looks like something in the stream from the server (possibly while reading headers?) is messing up CHUNGA:READLINE which Drakma uses.
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