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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Can someone give a quick non-marketing-speak version of what Grand Central Dispatch really does?

GCD is an updated and up-rated scheduler for Mac OS X.

The following does contain marketeering, but also has some decent technical details:

http://images.apple.com/macosx/technology/docs/GrandCentral_...

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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> and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack. point me to a page that only displays those 2 updates as the main features. In my browser Apple is clearly marketing the 64-bit, Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as the main reasons to upgrade. Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Microsoft release…

Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Well, that convinced me!

Thras, I'll ask you this completely sincerely, because I don't and never have understood this. Why do you, and people like you, get off from reading a lengthy debate on a topic online, and ignoring every point except the one that's not a point, then snarking about it? It's not just you: A lot of people do it, and it baffles me. I always really enjoy being told why my opinion on something is wrong, and these snarky responses don't seem to prove anything.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

#53

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What Unix upgrades?

Leopard was the first version of OSX (actually, first BSD based OS) to receive UNIX 03 certification http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3555.htm

That's not exactly a good reason to upgrade by itself.

It could be if you were required by some regulation to use a UNIX certified OS. IIRC, there were little feature changes that warranted the certification.

As for myself, I have an older iMac that won't run SL, a netbook that runs Linux and I am perfectly happy with both.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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What about those stuck on Tiger (my gf)? Buy Leopard and Snow Leopard update or buy a full version?

I'm still on Tiger and I'm probably not going to upgrade. I have a first-gen "lapburner" MBP which works just fine. Leopard didn't really offer anything ground breaking and it doesn't appear Snow Leopard will either. And I figure anything ground-breaking will require newer hardware, so I guess I'll stay on Tiger until the machine stops working. Which coincidentally is also why XP users don't upgrade either.

Insanity. Before Leopard, Spotlight was a debacle. After Leopard, it just works. Also: isn't there a whole lot of software you can't install now because Tiger doesn't have Core Animation and isn't LP64?

I also wouldn't trust Tiger security on an external network.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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post #52
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Well, that convinced me!

Thras, I'll ask you this completely sincerely, because I don't and never have understood this. Why do you, and people like you, get off from reading a lengthy debate on a topic online, and ignoring every point except the one that's not a point, then snarking about it? It's not just you: A lot of people do it, and it baffles me. I always really enjoy being told why my opinion on something is wrong, and these snarky re…

You more or less said that the grandparent was wrong "just because." You were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument. Exactly what you complained about with me, btw.

The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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post #51
post #47

Can someone give a quick non-marketing-speak version of what Grand Central Dispatch really does?

GCD is an updated and up-rated scheduler for Mac OS X. The following does contain marketeering, but also has some decent technical details: http://images.apple.com/macosx/technology/docs/GrandCentral_...

While I'm sure the scheduler had to be changed to accommodate it, it's not primarily a new scheduler. It's really a sophisticated thread pool system implemented in the kernel and exposed to programmers through language extensions.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_pool_pattern for the basics on the idea - which has been around for a long time.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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post #55
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thras, I'll ask you this completely sincerely, because I don't and never have understood this. Why do you, and people like you, get off from reading a lengthy debate on a topic online, and ignoring every point except the one that's not a point, then snarking about it? It's not just you: A lot of people do it, and it baffles me. I always really enjoy being told why my opinion on something is wrong, and these snarky re…

You more or less said that the grandparent was wrong "just because." You were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument. Exactly what you complained about with me, btw. The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

> The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

Uh.. no it's not. You could respond like you just did now and explain that they "were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument."

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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What's with the query string on the link, is that an affiliate identifier? The link works just fine without it, in either case.

No, not an affiliate id I simply copied the url straight out of my address bar - I'm guessing it's a session id or something. Here is the id-less link for anyone who doesn't believe me (I can't change the url of the post unfortunately): http://store.apple.com/us/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL

If it were an affiliate ID, I don't see why it would matter.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

#59
post #30

Anyone know how those of us who bought an mac recently get it for $10? I didn't see a link on that page.

It seems so: http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

FYI, as of right now, they aren't passing the info from the verification screen to the cart correctly, so you have to use the fax-in form.

http://images.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/docs/OSX_HW_UTD_FF.p...

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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True, but unlike practically everyone else they didn't allow their work to fit the expanded time available. Everyone builds in buffers and pads their estimates, but few people are able to work to their original true estimate.

OpenBSD has done it 26 times in a row: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/07/16/2322203/Why-OpenBSDs... PS: This article was written before 4.6 has was minted; it will actually be released a full month early.

I wish other companies would follow OpenBSD, in regard to releases, package management, etc. Their community is awesome. Abrasive at times... but awesome ;)
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