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Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by baddox » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:37 PM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #7

Meta comment about the panorama interface: The click+drag view control feels inverted to me. I'm curious whether I'm in the minority, though. For FPS games on PC I use normal mouse, but for console FPS games I use inverted joystick.

The reason it feels inverted is because it's not "click and drag" in the normal sense (like Google Maps) where clicking and holding sets an anchor point, and moving the cursor moves the anchor point.

This is more like a virtual joystick. Clicking and holding establishes the neutral point of the joystick, and the cursor position relative to the neutral point is the velocity vector of camera movement. It behaves the same as the right hand joystick in a console FPS like Halo with a traditional (non-inverted) control scheme.

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by nandhp » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:38 PM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #7

Meta comment about the panorama interface: The click+drag view control feels inverted to me. I'm curious whether I'm in the minority, though. For FPS games on PC I use normal mouse, but for console FPS games I use inverted joystick.

Yes, it feels inverted to me too.

You know who's responsible for that? Google Maps (specifically Street View). There used to be a bunch of different 360° Java applets and QuickTime VR embeds that did it this way; now they all feel backwards.

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by Locke1689 » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:39 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Very nice. In fact, almost nicer than being there (though you should do that anyway if you get the chance). Because now you can experience the details for as long as you want without a hundred other people around you who are just as annoyed at you as you are at them. I get it that a tourist complaining about tourist attractions being too crowded is total hypocrisy on my part. But at the same time what I wouldn't give…

Having tried the Oculus Rift, the potential to experience this would be incredible. Although there's nothing quite like just sitting on a worn stone bench alone in a cathedral, just the chill air around you.

It often makes me wish for a non-religious religion -- just a refuge of tranquility.

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by aashaykumar92 » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:39 PM UTC

Very cool. This got me thinking: there are many tourist sites where people aren't allowed to go anymore because of safety/security issues. It would be awesome if the site coordinators (or whoever makes executive decisions on such things) would make pages like this one available on their websites for their respective tourist attractions. And in more POVs.

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by shriphani » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:40 PM UTC

Excerpt from "When the Author Was Painting the Vault of the Sistine Chapel" by Michelangelo:

  My painting is dead.
  Defend it for me, Giovanni, protect my honor. 
  I am not in the right place—I am not a painter

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/poem/2010/01/labor_pains....

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by nthitz » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:40 PM UTC

If you look straight down "Copyright Musei Vaticani". Is that really on the floor at the Sistine Chapel or just for this web version?

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by Swizec » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Very nice. In fact, almost nicer than being there (though you should do that anyway if you get the chance). Because now you can experience the details for as long as you want without a hundred other people around you who are just as annoyed at you as you are at them. I get it that a tourist complaining about tourist attractions being too crowded is total hypocrisy on my part. But at the same time what I wouldn't give…

There's a line from a great Robin Williams movie where he talks about life to a gifted kid "I bet you can tell me every little detail about the Sistine Chapel, but you can't tell me what it smells like."

It smells like sweaty humans being herded through like cattle as quickly as possible.

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by soperj » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #13

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Very nice. In fact, almost nicer than being there (though you should do that anyway if you get the chance). Because now you can experience the details for as long as you want without a hundred other people around you who are just as annoyed at you as you are at them. I get it that a tourist complaining about tourist attractions being too crowded is total hypocrisy on my part. But at the same time what I wouldn't give…

Having tried the Oculus Rift, the potential to experience this would be incredible. Although there's nothing quite like just sitting on a worn stone bench alone in a cathedral, just the chill air around you. It often makes me wish for a non-religious religion -- just a refuge of tranquility.

I've gotten that feeling at the San Fran Aquarium. There are some benches where big fish can swim over head. Unbelievably peaceful and cool when there aren't a ton of kids running around(ie: get there early)

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by pavel_lishin » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Very nice. In fact, almost nicer than being there (though you should do that anyway if you get the chance). Because now you can experience the details for as long as you want without a hundred other people around you who are just as annoyed at you as you are at them. I get it that a tourist complaining about tourist attractions being too crowded is total hypocrisy on my part. But at the same time what I wouldn't give…

It's 100% better than being there. They keep it dark (presumably to preserve the paint), they lead you through a long gallery of mostly-similar art of mostly-similar vintages, and then you're surrounded by a hundred other tourists, all trying to squint upwards and catch a glimpse of the famous artwork.

If you love history and art, then sure, it's 100% worth it. Otherwise, I'd skip it. (caveat: if you do, you will have to deal with everyone you ever meet chastising you for skipping it.)

Re: Sistine Chapel

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Post by jacquesm » Fri, May 30, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #13

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Very nice. In fact, almost nicer than being there (though you should do that anyway if you get the chance). Because now you can experience the details for as long as you want without a hundred other people around you who are just as annoyed at you as you are at them. I get it that a tourist complaining about tourist attractions being too crowded is total hypocrisy on my part. But at the same time what I wouldn't give…

Having tried the Oculus Rift, the potential to experience this would be incredible. Although there's nothing quite like just sitting on a worn stone bench alone in a cathedral, just the chill air around you. It often makes me wish for a non-religious religion -- just a refuge of tranquility.

Mankind has made the most incredible art inspired by religion. Along the same lines, Bach's Chorales and in fact quite a bit of his other work.

Try this, if you feel like some really nice classical music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC3Upv8DuRQ