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Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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And on the flip side... If you let your emotions get the better of you one time, there's always 2nd chance. Which lesson should be taught to kids?

Redemption.

When does Breivik get released?

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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Can anybody explain why the Race column is stil there? What is the relevancy of this statistic? Why not sex, or religion?

Because a disproportionate number of people sentenced to death are non-white.

alternatively, a disproportionate number of people who can afford competent legal representation are white.

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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I haven't got that far yet, but only one of the five statements I've read has made any kind of apology, and he was already in prison at the time he committed the crime for which he was executed (running over a corrections officer in a stolen truck while trying to escape). Also surprising to me was how many murders were committed for very little potential gain: theft, escaping from a police officer while under arrest…

There's also 2 guys declared 'unfit to execute' yet they are still in solitary on death row since the 70s

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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post #60

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Man. Thanks for posting that. That hits hard. > Tonight, we tell our children that in some instances, in some cases, killing is right. > a system that is supposed to protect and uphold what is just and right can be so much like me when I made the same shameful mistake.

And on the flip side... If you let your emotions get the better of you one time, there's always 2nd chance. Which lesson should be taught to kids?

How about doing like the Norwegians: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 Their kids (have been taught to) kill less than kids in any American state.

EDIT: Don't know why I can't reply to any post, but the Norwegians actually have a diversity not that much unlike the US (15 percent immigrants / children of immigrants): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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Skimming the list, it seems only few of them are really repentant and understood the consequences of what they did. But, for the few of them, especially those referring to their family and children, it is hard to see what benefits their death will bring. Maybe some closure for the victim's family, but in some case, it sounds like the guy being executed as not much more in common with the criminal.

"I don’t think the world will be a better or safer place without me." If they aren't executed, they will spend the rest of their life in jail. So by executing them our gains are two fold. 1. save tax dollars over keeping them in jail long term 2. give victims families peace Something to think about.

As for 2. I'd rather say "give victims families a sense of satisfaction" but I would not say "peace" as peace is a positive state (which requires the will of the person). And that "sense" of satisfaction may turn out to be quite wrong if later on they recapacitate and think "well, I might have been satisfied with the criminal still alive" or even "I would like to forgive the criminal".

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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post #104
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And on the flip side... If you let your emotions get the better of you one time, there's always 2nd chance. Which lesson should be taught to kids?

How about doing like the Norwegians: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 Their kids (have been taught to) kill less than kids in any American state. EDIT: Don't know why I can't reply to any post, but the Norwegians actually have a diversity not that much unlike the US (15 percent immigrants / children of immigrants): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

They have a uniform culture. Everything gets easier with a common mindset. Folks keep using Norway as a fish-in-the-barrel ideal case of how anything can work. But its probably not transferable to the population of the most diverse nation on earth.

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Because in politics the cover up is often more damaging than the initial transgression? Because the state does not feel that they have done anything wrong and therefore has nothing to gain by appearing to hide information from the public?

Or because there is nothing to hide? From the data: White 231 (44.9%) Black 190 (36.9%) Hispanic 92 (17.9%) Other 2 (0.4%)

Aren't blacked extremely over-represented in that list?

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

#108

When California released a similar database a few years ago, it completely convinced me of the horrific barbarism that capital punishment is. It is no deterrent to crime, and the risk of killing not just innocent people, but genuinely reformed people, is far, far too great.

In the book History of the Peloponnesian War (possibly the first historical text ever written.) There is a passage that remarks about how death does not deter crime. People have been trying to use death as punishment for most of human history and it hasn't made a difference. This was written in 431 BC.

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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post #104

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How about doing like the Norwegians: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18135537 Their kids (have been taught to) kill less than kids in any American state. EDIT: Don't know why I can't reply to any post, but the Norwegians actually have a diversity not that much unlike the US (15 percent immigrants / children of immigrants): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

They have a uniform culture. Everything gets easier with a common mindset. Folks keep using Norway as a fish-in-the-barrel ideal case of how anything can work. But its probably not transferable to the population of the most diverse nation on earth.

How does diversity necessitate a higher crime rate? I've heard this stated a lot, but the explanation of how it works is always missing.

Re: Death Row – Last words of every Texas inmate executed since 1982

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Redemption.

When does Breivik get released?

Brevik is complaining about his video games not being recent enough. He doesn't seem interested in redemption. But while he is alive there is nevertheless the possibility, however slim.
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