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It's time for the US to use the metric system

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Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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I think, even, when the US is changing to the metric system, the bigger problem will still linger around (and when I have hope for the the metric system, I don't have any for that):

How on earth can we make the British driving on the "right" side of the street.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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100°C , that should be simple enough :)

Okay, so boiling water happens to be a convenient number. But my point surely stands for the temperature where water freezes?! Metric makes no sense.

You mean 0°C?

What makes no sense is your hyperbolic rejection of metric.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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> I dislike having to own wrenches in both standard and metric units I think you mean "I dislike having US customary and standard metric units". When it comes down to it, everybody else in the world managed to buckle down and just switch to standard metric units and ISO/DIN paper sizes. There is nothing special about the US that makes it any more of an imposition for them to switch over. Many of the issues you've out…

What is special about the US is that it has a huge population that uses a single set of units of measurement. Europe had zillions of them ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass) , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ell ) units, often multiple ones per country. In some sense, the metric system was a blessing, as it was foreign to all countries. Countries would never have switched to, say, the German standard of measurem…

We here in Ireland decided to move away from dual use of units (miles and km) to just km a few years back. Sure, we're not a big country, but we also have more road per capita than anywhere else in the EU at the very least. Given within a relatively short amount of time, the use of miles for non-trivial distances practically disappeared. Now it's only used in colloquialisms (e.g. "it's a few miles away") or for familiar distances (e.g. "the graveyard is a mile that way"); anything else is km, and sooner or later we'll likely be using km everywhere.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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It's not like America is the only country that will have ever transitioned. Many other countries have gone through all those issues without much complaint. It's not some untested experimental process being advocated. It's not like the US is going to be using weird-arse inches, furlongs, horses and stones forever.

We're by far the largest country (in terms of population) to attempt a conversion. That counts for something.

So the USA is the largest country still not using metric?

Not something to be proud of.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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post #39

The UK is supposedly metric most people still think and talk in imperial - most shops give both measurements. I think the EU gave up enforcing it. edit: sorry, by most people I mean people I know who grew up before metric was introduced.

I don't think it's anywhere near that bad. It's a gradual transition and it's working (imho). In my mind, miles for roads is really the only standout left. I don't think of pint as a measure, but the name of a particular type of glass. Outside of that I've just never found a practical use for the imperial system. It's bad enough trying to translate things to american and back, let alone trying to keep track of a US g…

The pint glass is a perfect fit for 500ml of ale. If you tip it into the glass with a modicum of care, you end up with the head not quite reaching the top.

(Of course, had we switched to 500ml glasses, leaving ale in 568ml bottles, we'd be stuffed. A point to bear in mind if contemplating a piecemeal transition.)

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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Some thoughts on a conversion that I don't generally see brought up: * From an economic standpoint, the US is a big enough market that it is profitable to make things in weird US units, you have 350M people to sell to, most of whom are pretty well off by world standards. It makes sense to make a line catering to them. If businesses can start making a true or good economic argument it will happen more. * Tooling that…

But it shouldn't be all or nothing. For example, although most of the world uses the metric system, I think in aeronautics they still use feet to measure altitude. US could migrate to metric independently of the aeronautic standards.

Additionally, I don't think that changing tooling should be a priority. Even in the countries that use metric system, we use nuts and screws measured in inches. They are usually called 1/4, 1/2 and so on ignoring the "inch" part. Also, in Venezuela, letter is the standard paper used, not A4.

I think a good solution would be for the US to use metric to measure most of the things people and industries interact with (distance, velocity, weight, volume), but you can keep the old measures when convenient.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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US already has many "slightly dissimilar" paper sizes, this Letter, Legal, etc... so at least for A4, one more couldn't hurt right?

Currently you use letter unless you are required to use legal. When would someone use A4?

Always.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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post #108

I challenge you all to make two changes today with regard to this. First, switch your phone to give you the weather in Celsius. It gets super simple fast: 0 and below - Freezing. Wear a warm jacket and closed toe shoes or boots. 1 - 10 - Cold. Wear an overcoat (a light one if you are used to colder weather) 10-15 - Early spring time. Long sleeves are probably in order, maybe even a sweater. 15-20 - Late spring. Wear…

You forgot the most annoying part inches, feet and all that crap. I get people telling me measurements in inches sometimes here in the UK and I always tell the to measure it again in centimeters. It's just easier and more accurate.

I find the inches and feet to be easier to use than said pound and stone .... Not to forget those silly cooking measures like cup, bowl, tea spoon etc... which obviously are not standardized. Talking about weird measure, is the fact that properties seems to be advertised in number of rooms and not square meters or square feet.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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Okay, so boiling water happens to be a convenient number. But my point surely stands for the temperature where water freezes?! Metric makes no sense.

You mean 0°C? What makes no sense is your hyperbolic rejection of metric.

I am pretty sure sjwright is being sarcastic.

Re: It's time for the US to use the metric system

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post #108

I challenge you all to make two changes today with regard to this. First, switch your phone to give you the weather in Celsius. It gets super simple fast: 0 and below - Freezing. Wear a warm jacket and closed toe shoes or boots. 1 - 10 - Cold. Wear an overcoat (a light one if you are used to colder weather) 10-15 - Early spring time. Long sleeves are probably in order, maybe even a sweater. 15-20 - Late spring. Wear…

You forgot the most annoying part inches, feet and all that crap. I get people telling me measurements in inches sometimes here in the UK and I always tell the to measure it again in centimeters. It's just easier and more accurate.

Even worse is stupid fractional units like ounce-inches instead of foot-pounds.
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