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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by cpr »

mseebach wrote: post #9

Hmm, not exactly convincing. Leopard brought stuff like time machine, this smells more like a big service pack. I mean, OpenCL and some of the central applications running 64-bit? Better Quicktime and a new Safari? I don't even use QT and Safari. And it's $29? Too little to be too much, but still a lot for a service pack.

When Apple first announce 10.6, they said it wouldn't have any end-user features, but just a lot of re-engineering under the hood. Well, they couldn't help themselves, and there are a bunch of smaller features, plus things like Exchange support across the board.

And there really has been a lot of re-engineering, most of it focussed on making things a lot faster and smaller.

I think Apple deserve our thanks for actually making performance and improved footprint an explicit goal of a major release, rather than larding on new feature after new feature in some kind of misguided feature war.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by zzkt »

stuff4ben wrote: post #14
uggedal wrote: post #2

What about those stuck on Tiger (my gf)? Buy Leopard and Snow Leopard update or buy a full version?

I'm still on Tiger and I'm probably not going to upgrade. I have a first-gen "lapburner" MBP which works just fine. Leopard didn't really offer anything ground breaking and it doesn't appear Snow Leopard will either. And I figure anything ground-breaking will require newer hardware, so I guess I'll stay on Tiger until the machine stops working. Which coincidentally is also why XP users don't upgrade either.

I've upgraded a few MBPs (1st & 2nd gen) and even some old powerbooks all of which perform perceivably better with 10.5 YMMV

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by mseebach »

yardie wrote: post #15
mseebach wrote: post #9

Hmm, not exactly convincing. Leopard brought stuff like time machine, this smells more like a big service pack. I mean, OpenCL and some of the central applications running 64-bit? Better Quicktime and a new Safari? I don't even use QT and Safari. And it's $29? Too little to be too much, but still a lot for a service pack.

Did you even read link? Here http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/ are the new features that went into this release. And your comment doesn't even make sense, first you say it's a service pack than you rattle off a short list of new and upgraded items. These things do cost money to develop. And I'm pretty sure $29 barely covers the cost of it. I don't remember anything new being in Windows when a SP rolled out exce…

Every other "system update" reboot I've made for the past 20 months seems to have included an update to QuickTime and Safari -- both of which, by the way, are available as free downloads -- and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by nudded »

mseebach wrote: post #24
yardie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read link? Here http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/ are the new features that went into this release. And your comment doesn't even make sense, first you say it's a service pack than you rattle off a short list of new and upgraded items. These things do cost money to develop. And I'm pretty sure $29 barely covers the cost of it. I don't remember anything new being in Windows when a SP rolled out exce…

Every other "system update" reboot I've made for the past 20 months seems to have included an update to QuickTime and Safari -- both of which, by the way, are available as free downloads -- and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

> and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

point me to a page that only displays those 2 updates as the main features. In my browser Apple is clearly marketing the 64-bit, Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as the main reasons to upgrade.

Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Microsoft releases service packs, just like Apple releases minor updates to their OS, (eg. 10.5.7)

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by JeremyChase »

raganwald wrote: post #18
prakash wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other way to look at this is that Apple gave themselves plenty of buffer to ship.

True, but unlike practically everyone else they didn't allow their work to fit the expanded time available. Everyone builds in buffers and pads their estimates, but few people are able to work to their original true estimate.

OpenBSD has done it 26 times in a row:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/07/16/2322203/Why-OpenBSDs...

PS: This article was written before 4.6 has was minted; it will actually be released a full month early.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by thras »

nudded wrote: post #25
mseebach wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every other "system update" reboot I've made for the past 20 months seems to have included an update to QuickTime and Safari -- both of which, by the way, are available as free downloads -- and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

> and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack. point me to a page that only displays those 2 updates as the main features. In my browser Apple is clearly marketing the 64-bit, Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as the main reasons to upgrade. Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Microsoft release…

Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't.

Well, that convinced me!

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Post by gaius »

mseebach wrote: post #24
yardie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read link? Here http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/ are the new features that went into this release. And your comment doesn't even make sense, first you say it's a service pack than you rattle off a short list of new and upgraded items. These things do cost money to develop. And I'm pretty sure $29 barely covers the cost of it. I don't remember anything new being in Windows when a SP rolled out exce…

Every other "system update" reboot I've made for the past 20 months seems to have included an update to QuickTime and Safari -- both of which, by the way, are available as free downloads -- and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

The new Quicktime leverages various features in Snow Leopard, e.g. Grand Central.
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