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For Hire: Dedicated Young Man With Down Syndrome

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Re: For Hire: Dedicated Young Man With Down Syndrome

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> This kind of categorization perhaps wouldn't fly in the States I see this as a bit of a paradox in the States. There is always some discussion about how everyone should be treated as equal, yet your "race" (whatever that means in the age of genetics!) is recorded by the government, and minorities are tracked by employers even though this is absolutely not related with their skills. If i think too much about it, I'd…

It's not a paradox. We have a lot of discussion in the U.S. about how everyone should be treated equally as a response to our historical and continuing failure to treat people equally. We keep track of race as a way to monitor our progress on that front. When you start tracking, you might be surprised by how little your organization is doing to treat people equally: http://www.google.com/diversity/at-google.html#tab=…

The problem the US has in this regard is the blunt, stupid way we do it. "Race" is an example.

I work at a consulting company with very competitive hiring. Many of my teammates are "African American" according to the standard US classification, but guess what? Most of them, although born and raised in the US, are the children of Nigerian immigrants.

A candid discussion with one of my co-workers on a recent business trip revealed his issue with this. He is a descendent of slaves, and has roots in Alabama and Georgia. The policies of correcting for slavery, Jim Crow, and its resulting consequences are benefiting people who, due to immigrating in the last 30 years, weren't affected by it. My company is getting credit, the universities who admit these students are getting credit, and none are actually addressing the true group of people who were historically forbidden the right to read, to work, to own land, or to get an education of any kind. He isn't at all angry at our wonderful Nigerian-American coworkers.... he just feels that these hamfisted measures could easily be adjusted to help the groups they were designed to.

Having a broad spectrum of people with different levels of melanin may be one indicator of diversity, but it can be a poor one. I have never, ever worked on a software team with another person who grew up in a trailer park or even has Appalachian roots. But its cool. Another white guy who grew up in Sunnyvale is going to be exactly the same as me, because we both have northern European ancestry. Problem solved.

Re: For Hire: Dedicated Young Man With Down Syndrome

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"Race"? In France it is forbidden to ask or record the religion or color of skin. Thus, it is forbidden to make statistics about it. Of course it is not the same about people with a handicap.

By the way, in Germany, they don't track your race, but they ask you for your religion when you move there. And it's actually a trap ! If you answer that you have any, suddenly you'll see a religion tax (deducted from your salary every month) going to your religion of choice. In Germany is literally "pays" to be agnostic.

Lol. Why on earth do they do this?

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Would you be happy sitting in the basement watching YouTube videos all day? Jamie is clearly happier working a job, he earns some money, the employer gets a job done, and somebody with a normal IQ is freed to do something more mentally demanding. Sounds like a quadruple win to me.

I'm sitting in my mom's attic as I type this. I pretty much sit here all day. And yes, I'm happy. Thanks for asking. If Jamie is happier working a job, then fine. But was he born wanting to get a job? How much came from him and how much came from his parents placing unrealistic expectations on him? Do you honestly believe that low-skilled workers are being kept from doing more mentally demanding work because they can…

Low-skilled work is a poverty trap that drains people of energy they might otherwise be using to learn more valuable skills. In fact, it's an anecdote not uncommon that more high school graduates are going to college because filling out FAFSA forms has a greater expected payout than a job search for part-time fast-food wages.

Perhaps the GP didn't get the causality quite right, but we are entering some kind of a dystopian twilight zone with regard to employment. Not too long ago, there was the story about a Walmart opening up in the D.C. area, and that one single store received __25,000__ job applications. That's a lower acceptance rate than Harvard, getting a job at Walmart is literally more cut-throat than getting into Harvard.

Re: For Hire: Dedicated Young Man With Down Syndrome

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Maybe in Taxonomy? Taxonomists are scientists who can catalogue specimens of animals and plants into species, and argue about what is a species and what is two species. However, he might be quite good at learning to classify specimens and classifying them. Not in the more academic/scientific role, but it would be valuable work. He might even be able to discover things about taxonomy nobody else has found yet.

I bet he'd be super good working in a library.

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I'm currently working as a tutor in a center for gifted (high intelligence) children. Along with this intelligence, in many cases comes some mental difficulties. As an instructor in this environment, it is actually very difficult to deal with some children who are unable to interpret what I am saying to them. Not only does the child get frustrated when I don't understand what they're trying to tell me, but I get frus…

My son (7) is gifted, his school has no program for children with special needs, and he's having enormous problems in school with other children and his teacher. Would you mind sharing some tricks to share with his teacher that might help her handle my son better? We told her to keep him occupied, send him for photocopies, give him some extra tasks in class etc. but she doesn't want to do such things since my son som…

Your son improvising and making mistakes is a good thing. Mistakes are what cause us to learn. To make them in an environment with little downside is a great way to grow as a person as opposed to making them in the real world where you could get fired for them.

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However it is customary to include a photo, date of birth, and marital status on your CV.

DoB and marital status are not part of modern CVs. They are irrelevant cruft. The employer is legally not allowed to take them into consideration so there is no point in including them on your CV.

Are you still speaking about France or in general? Every guide I've seen to writing a French (and German) CV lists those items as more or less essential. [1][2][3] And even if they are not essential, or not legally required that doesn't mean leaving them off will not affect their decision [4]. However, maybe it really is not a problem. I honestly have no idea. Have you seen other articles saying to no longer include them?

[1] http://french.about.com/library/writing/bl-cv.htm

[2] http://conseils-carriere.monster.ch/cv-et-lettres-de-motivat... 3. Personal Information - "limit to a strict minimum: ...date of birth, nationality, marital status, number of children"

[3] http://conseils-carriere.monster.ch/CV-et-lettres-de-motivat... "Should I give detailed information about my marrital status? Write whether you are single, married, widowed, or divorced. If you have children, only mention their age and sex, not their names."

[4] http://www.thelocal.de/20130131/47649 "Unlike most English resumes, German CVs always include a passport-style professional photo in the upper right-hand corner - a detail advisers say you would do well not to leave out.

"German employers are used to seeing a photo on a résumé, they can't explicitly demand in the job advert that you put one because that goes against privacy laws," Störr told The Local.

"But they'll be looking for it so always put one. A photo allows potential employers to make a different kind of personal connection with someone and will help them connect your skills with your face when you come to an interview.""

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Why is it strange coming from Al Jazeera? Would you think it strange if it came from the BBC or Der Spiegel? Despite what many in the US believe, Al Jazerra isn't the mouthpiece of terrorists or Qatar's propaganda machine, they're mostly just a very good news source.

Yes, good news for sure. They're eager to show another view from inside countries. Often a troublesome view. (A view the mainstream media often neglect). It does make me wonder: Would they be allowed to show the same view of Quatar, their owner?

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/2/17/hundreds-of-... http://america.aljazeera.com/search.html?q=qatar

The links above are just anecdotal of course, but there doesn't seem to be any kind of interference from Qatar in any of their coverage. It's not the "RT" of Qatar.

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Why is it strange coming from Al Jazeera? Would you think it strange if it came from the BBC or Der Spiegel? Despite what many in the US believe, Al Jazerra isn't the mouthpiece of terrorists or Qatar's propaganda machine, they're mostly just a very good news source.

Yes, good news for sure. They're eager to show another view from inside countries. Often a troublesome view. (A view the mainstream media often neglect). It does make me wonder: Would they be allowed to show the same view of Quatar, their owner?

Though Al Jazeera claim's editorial independence, in reality it appears to not exist, or they choose not to exercise it.

Apparently Al Jazeera's Arabic station has not covered the withdrawal of ambassadors from Qatar because of Qatar's support of the Muslim Brotherhood: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/03/jazeera-qa...

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"Race"? In France it is forbidden to ask or record the religion or color of skin. Thus, it is forbidden to make statistics about it. Of course it is not the same about people with a handicap.

By the way, in Germany, they don't track your race, but they ask you for your religion when you move there. And it's actually a trap ! If you answer that you have any, suddenly you'll see a religion tax (deducted from your salary every month) going to your religion of choice. In Germany is literally "pays" to be agnostic.

Yep, Kirchensteuer ... usually between 8% and 9% if you're member of a confession that collects tax. Many people leave the church because of that, but then try and get your son or daughter into one of the many christian nurseries or schools later, and you have a bit of a problem ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax#Germany

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I'd be interested how they classify someone who is mixed between black and white. How about the people who have mixed blood for 3-4 generations and who do not fall in any category anymore ? The race classification in a country where people move around the whole time should really be depreciated.

Mixed-race person here; It is self-identified. This is actually kinda confusing because the various forms never provide any guidance on how to determine what race you are for the purpose of the form. I have a Black[1] grandfather but look either Italian, Hispanic, or Sephardic Jewish. This led to me incorrectly identifying what race I was and mostly being annoyed by the question[2]. For example, when I applied to MIT…

"clan rally"? maybe clan parade is a better way of phrasing it.
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