Where was the substance to the post? The post she linked to was far more interesting:
https://netguru.co/blog/posts/brace-no-more-going-from-java-...
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#12You know that comic, from back in the 90s?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_y...
Well, this is another point for the distributed, asynchronous programming championed by http://asyncmanifesto.org/
I would be happy to hire a woman programmer at our company provided she was awesome at the stuff we need -- Javascript, PHP, etc. In fact if someone here is reading this (man or woman) and thinks they would like to work with us on http://github.com/EGreg/Q, I would be very happy to talk to you -- if you can figure out how to contact me from there.
In programming, the internet is the great equalizer. Have your work speak for itself, have your reviews speak for themselves, and this may be a faster vector for advancement than at a job.
PS: Recently I did reach out to one woman who I found on oDesk and she was busy with a project, but recommended someone else, a man. And now I'm talking to him, because she recommended well.
PPS: We do have a woman working in our company, doing sales. I really hire based simply on competence with the stuff we need and so far it's ben mostly men doing the programming.
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#13Misleading title, there is no bar in this story.
But seriously, I think this is a refreshing article, considering the usual gender in tech articles here. I'd like to think that there are plenty of places a woman can work as a professional developer and not be subject to such rampant discrimination and sexual harassment that most of us find it difficult to believe.
I recommend everybody believe and act as if there are plenty of awesome companies to work at. If you find yourself at a company that sucks, for whatever reason, kick their asses to the curb and find a new one.
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#14“you’re a chick, leave this crap to REAL developers”
Seriously, what kind of a dick says that to anybody - even if it was nothing to do with gender, it's an egregious offence.
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#15Over 50% of this article is a job posting... I find it a little messed up to take a real issue and spin it as a hiring campaign. A footnote about the positive work environment at Netguru? Sure. But this is just plain advertising.
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#16Misleading title, there is no bar in this story. But seriously, I think this is a refreshing article, considering the usual gender in tech articles here. I'd like to think that there are plenty of places a woman can work as a professional developer and not be subject to such rampant discrimination and sexual harassment that most of us find it difficult to believe. I recommend everybody believe and act as if there are…
If you find yourself at a company that sucks, for whatever reason, kick their asses to the curb and find a new one.
And don't forget to call them out for it, publicly. I know that's easy to say, and in reality it's going to be hard to deal with the inevitable onslaught of abuse you're going to take for it. But companies have to make an effort to ensure that toxic environments are eliminated.
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#19“you’re a chick, leave this crap to REAL developers”.
I really don't understand guys who say (or think) shit like this. Honestly, it annoys me not so much because it's sexist, or misogynistic, or bigoted or whatever, but rather because it's fucking stupid.
I've been doing this stuff professional for around 20 years now, and I've worked with oodles of female programmers over the years, and I've never seen any reason to believe that female programmers are in any way less competent than their male counterparts. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
It really boggles the imagination... where do these guys come up with this shit? Making crude jokes, sexually charged statements, some of these other things I can understand (that doesn't make them right mind you, I'm just saying I can understand the place some of it comes from), but I can't even begin to understand a mindset of insinuating that women are less capable as developers/hackers/programmers/whatever.
To anybody who believes that women are somehow inherently inferior at coding, let me just say that you're wrong. Absolutely, totally, completely wrong. Maybe you haven't worked with enough women, or maybe you had the bad fortune to work with the wrong women, or maybe you just weren't paying attention, but it's just not true.
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#20You know that comic, from back in the 90s? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_y... Well, this is another point for the distributed, asynchronous programming championed by http://asyncmanifesto.org/ I would be happy to hire a woman programmer at our company provided she was awesome at the stuff we need -- Javascript, PHP, etc. In fact if someone here is reading this (man or woman) and thinks th…
In programming, the internet is the great equalizer. Have your work speak for itself, have your reviews speak for themselves, and this may be a faster vector for advancement than at a job.
This is the meritocracy argument. I am sympathetic to it, and agree to a great extent. But the main objection—and it's an important one—is that an unbalanced, male-dominated workplace becomes less attractive to women. In most cases, it probably isn't even conscious - but it can become pretty hostile.