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Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

Whoa! I'm very excited to be reading the text of the person put in charge of the universe! I'm getting chills just thinking that you might actually read this humble message.

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

This. Moreover, is adding even more JavaScript really necessary? How about just make things simple, fast, and easy to read? As an user I'll always choose speed and good typography over clever transitions and smart menus.

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #21
post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

Whoa! I'm very excited to be reading the text of the person put in charge of the universe! I'm getting chills just thinking that you might actually read this humble message.

He's not wrong.

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them.

Are there any stats that prove this? I see this repeated time and time again on HN but I'm yet to see evidence that (a meaningfully significant number of) users are turned off by headers like this, while I have seen evidence that it increases engagement rates. It's used in both Chrome on Android and Safari on iOS, so I don't think it's an alien concept at this point.

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

just curious, are saying you let them scroll out of view, or get rid of them altogether? if the latter, what type of site navigation is better?

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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FYI, this UI pattern is called "Quick Return": http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/08/an-emerging-ui-patt...

I had been looking for this pattern's name after having seen Chrome on Android implementing it for their navbar. I find it useful on mobile where scrolling a long distance can be laborious.

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #19
post #16

Just get rid of the damn headers. Users don't want them. They are just misguided ways of trying to raise retention, but really what they do is make your site less pleasant to use, which then makes me not want to come back later.

Actually, it's not as bad as the headline implies. Header stays hidden once it disappears, giving you the entire screen to read, but if you scroll up a bit it appears again, so you can use it to navigate. It acts the same as iOS Safari header - once you get used to it, it's really nice.

A completely static site also has this property. When I scroll to the top, I can see the top. When I scroll away from the top, I cannot see the top.

I've just stated a tautology, so I'm missing something.

EDIT I'm seriously wondering whether this whole thing is a joke I'm not getting. Is there a jQuery plug-in that lets me click on text to go to other pages, too?

Re: Headroom.js – hide your header on scroll

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it's not as bad as the headline implies. Header stays hidden once it disappears, giving you the entire screen to read, but if you scroll up a bit it appears again, so you can use it to navigate. It acts the same as iOS Safari header - once you get used to it, it's really nice.

A completely static site also has this property. When I scroll to the top, I can see the top. When I scroll away from the top, I cannot see the top. I've just stated a tautology, so I'm missing something. EDIT I'm seriously wondering whether this whole thing is a joke I'm not getting. Is there a jQuery plug-in that lets me click on text to go to other pages, too?

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