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Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#121

I agree in the case of Scribd. Quora is not as clear-cut. While I dislike their 'login-wall', it doesn't feel like a company focused around short-term profits. I think their aim is noble, only that they are struggling somewhat to find ways to increase engagement and scope. Although subjective, I feel they are still on the right half of a good-insidious scale (Scribd less so).

I was coming around to liking Quora before the login wall. After that, I put it on my google search block list.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#123

I hate pay-walls and even login-walls, so I genuinely disagree with Scribd's payment model. However, I do think the service provides value in that users are able to upload a PDF and it renders in a pretty widely-compatible viewer format (in HTML5). Embedding PDFs across multiple platforms are still a terrible native experience, and on some systems it launches tons of painful Acrobat toolbars or just doesn't show up a…

Just out of curiosity, what is it about pay-walls that you hate so much? I don't hate them (my wallet does, when the content I want is behind them of course), but I find it to be a pretty reasonable model. Have a bite of the content, if you enjoy it then pay for the rest. It doesn't seem crazy to me that people should be compensated for their work, and while the "pay what you want" model is a lovely ideal, some peopl…

The paradox of paywalls is that content you have to pay for is less valuable than content you get for free. The ability to link to and from a page is a tremendous value-add in the web; a paywall breaks the chain of links. If an article is behind a paywall, I can read it, but I can't Tweet it to all my followers and expect they can read it, I can't link to it from my blog and expect all my readers to get the context... sharing is a fundamental feature for the web and paywalls break it.

There IS a case where paywalls work and work well -- if some of the value in the information is information asymmetry. This is why the Wall Street Journal works better behind a paywall than the New York Times does -- the audience for the WSJ is a bunch of people who deal in investing, where the value sometimes isn't in merely being informed but being more informed than the others.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

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Quora is dangerously close to being a nuisance with all the pointless emails they send. I think I browsed the site a half dozen times max, and contributed to two-three questions. Now I get daily emails about distant friends activity on Quora. LinkedIn this the only site I've been tricked into joining that is worse with their spammy emails.

I get "things you might be interested" emails from Quora all the time. The thing is, they usually are interesting questions/answers (probably helped by all the things I have clicked on in the past)

I used to only get those once a week but now it has come to about once every two days. Good thing I don't actively monitor my "all mail". Lately, I use the search feature in my gmail quite often. People will hunt me down (in person or by phone etc) and ask me about the email they sent me. Then, I go into my gmail and find the email in question.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#125

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Yes, you can turn off those emails. All you have to do is un-click 25 checkboxes! http://cl.ly/image/3J2Q3o1M213h/quora-email-settings.png

Don't forget you'll have to re-un-click them every time they add another point to the list!

Just to hold off on the Quora bashing for a few seconds - I've used Quora since 2011, and they actually have not ever added a new email item defaulting to on (for me at least, maybe I'm in some grandfathered category.)

They've done heaps of annoying shit, but that in particular is one of the few things they haven't done.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#126

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So they do something slightly different from Stack* and they're "considered harmful"? The screenshot I linked should be enough to immediately disprove any accusations of "spam".

The screenshot you link seems to me indicative of a dark pattern: User unsubscribes from all categories (one-by-one-by-one) = invent a new category and auto-subscribe the user.

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Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#127
There are a ton of Chinese document-sharing sites similar to Scribd, and they use all the same horrible DRM-ish tricks (some even split the text between Flash and HTML) to make it difficult to save the content. I was briefly involved in a project to reconstruct a PDF from the contents on one of these sites, and the end result did work pretty well.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#128

I want to highlight one part of my blog post no one's picked up on: "some engineer actually wrote code to deliberately break document sharing on the web." Think of all the things an engineer can do with the skill to program computers, to make amazing things on the Internet. And he or she spends that time developing new ways to make it hard to read text on a web page. Ugh. Frankly making fun of Quora and Scribd is lik…

How is someone who builds software to sell digital goods any different? They deliberately put a border in between the user and the content (music, ebooks, software, etc.) I don't see many people complaining about that.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

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Yeah, I think Quora only makes sense if they are bought and a piece of it is implemented within one of the giants like Google. It's an interesting new business model I guess.

Yahoo Answers is already scary enough.

oh yes it is. example:

"Can anyone tell me if Optoma is the best brand making projectors?"

Best Answer Selected by Voters: "Nigga, I saw in a previous question that you havin a baby. what the fuck you spending money fo bitch, save that shit"

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#130

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A service emailing me anything I did not explicitly ask it to is sending me spam - unsolicited commercial email - by your own definition. Just because you find the spam useful doesn't mean it isn't spam.

By that definition, Stack Overflow's weekly email is "spam". You signed up for it the same way you signed up for Quora.

Yes. Most mail from corporations at this point is spam. That is completely true.
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