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Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#51

While I usually find the businesses funded by Y Combinator awesome I think Scribd is a bad apple. Not only is the user experience terrible it also has the smell of a bad neighborhood with all the pirated content it offers. Today I incidentally read the current (March 2014) "Gutenberg 3.5 - Ebook Piracy Report"[1]. It seems to be from an anti-piracy lobbying group, so its obviously biased, but it mentions Scribd even…

More like the Dailymotion or the Vimeo, but I see what you mean.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#53

What is a good alternative to Scribd? One that allows viewers to download the source file without too much hassle and displays the text properly? Google Drive?

Any modern browser has inline pdf viewing really. Scribd is from the time when the majority didn't yet. I do much prefer sites to open pdfs in a new tab, though, but not as download.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#54
Numerous Scribd uploads, which we needed for our business, were fine one day and irretrievable the next. The response from tech support was to re-upload the content, which wasn't possible. Haven't left, yet, because I'm not sure where else to go to host thousands of documents quickly.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#55
post #19

What is a good alternative to Scribd? One that allows viewers to download the source file without too much hassle and displays the text properly? Google Drive?

Why not just use a sane PDF reader? Firefox has a reasonable one built-in. The problem with Scribd is that it tries to reduce your cognitive load by one click. "Open or save?" But it replaces that horrible, horrible soul-crushing "Open or save?" dilemma with its own inferior implementation.

PDFs that don't force a download open inline without asking in any browser, just like any other readable file (e.g. webpages, text files, images).

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#56

What is a good alternative to Scribd? One that allows viewers to download the source file without too much hassle and displays the text properly? Google Drive?

I prefer viewerjs.org - I don't believe it if people that say that every modern platform has a PDF viewer.

Having a document hosted on your own website together with a javascript viewer reduces the risk for users both in terms of privacy and security, as Acrobat Reader is a seriously problematic piece of code and all the remote code is a serious violation of trust between the user and the owner of the site.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#57
post #26

What is a good alternative to Scribd? One that allows viewers to download the source file without too much hassle and displays the text properly? Google Drive?

I really don't think there is a good answer for this that a lot of people use right now. It's definitely a project or startup waiting to happen.

This seems like something that could easily be hacked together over a 3 day weekend (at least a basic version). It could be profitable pretty quickly too if you go for the current Imgur model of ads/pro accounts. *adds to to-do list&

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#58
post #6

I think my continued use of these sites rigged with all dark patterns are just a nod of acceptance. Deleted Quora app from phone long ago and logged out. It's probably time I delete my account. Update: Oh well. There's no delete feature implemented. You have to email Quora support. https://www.quora.com/Quora-product/How-do-I-delete-my-Quora...

It took Quora support several weeks to delete my account, and only after repeated requests.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#59
post #11

I agree in the case of Scribd. Quora is not as clear-cut. While I dislike their 'login-wall', it doesn't feel like a company focused around short-term profits. I think their aim is noble, only that they are struggling somewhat to find ways to increase engagement and scope. Although subjective, I feel they are still on the right half of a good-insidious scale (Scribd less so).

There's nothing "noble" about spamming search engines with full text results then putting up a login-wall for the same content you arrived on the page for. Tricking random users looking for an answer that's supposedly there into registering so they can see the 1 answer is not increasing engagement, just signup counts.

How is it that Google doesn't penalize them for this? I thought it's considered a big no-no to show people something different than what you show the crawler.

Re: Scribd and Quora considered harmful

#60
If anyone wants to read the Declaration of Independence as linked in the article (or any Sribd document blurred in a similar fashion), here's a bookmarklet that will remove the blur and promo boxes: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f9a222112070b2313b27

It's funny, I actually used a similar trick (text-shadow + transparent font) for an optometrist's website a long time ago. It was just a neat visual effect though, no DRM garbage.

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