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Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#11

Post by cool-RR »

Public service announcement to all companies that are trying to sell us keyboards or keyboard-like solutions:

I fully expect, when I go into your site, to see a video of someone using your keyboard to type FAST. (Which is probably the most important criteria in a keyboard.)

This is essential because if your own people who developed the keyboard can only get to X wpm, odds are low that your average users are going to exceed X wpm.

If I don't see a video of someone using your keyboard to type fast, I'm going to assume that you were not able to produce such a video, because your keyboard doesn't really allow for someone to type fast, which means that your keyboard is pretty much useless.

Thank you.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#12

Post by Timsalabim »

wingerlang wrote: post #6
p4bl0 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, actually I believe this is not true at all. I learned in an intro to cognitive psychology class that it seems that our brain is wired to recognize sets of 1, 2, and 3 things directly, but that after that we construct the numbers. For instance when we see 5 things it is actually 3+2 that we see. The experiment was based on response time + accurateness when showing people sets of geometrical shapes for very short…

There really is a lack of actual usage-videos which is kind of off putting. The posted "trailer" video didn't make me want to use it either, although this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPalCIbGA8 made me a little bit more curious. And regarding the 3+2 thing that seems true, I always count to 5 in couples of 3s and 2s.

He's really slow in the video. I use Swift key (not swiping, just typing) and I'm many times faster than that. Can't see how an expert would be faster either, the gestures simply take longer than simply hitting the right spot.

Also Swiftkey is pretty forgiving once you use it more and the predictions become a real time saver.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#14

Post by p4bl0 »

wingerlang wrote: post #6
p4bl0 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, actually I believe this is not true at all. I learned in an intro to cognitive psychology class that it seems that our brain is wired to recognize sets of 1, 2, and 3 things directly, but that after that we construct the numbers. For instance when we see 5 things it is actually 3+2 that we see. The experiment was based on response time + accurateness when showing people sets of geometrical shapes for very short…

There really is a lack of actual usage-videos which is kind of off putting. The posted "trailer" video didn't make me want to use it either, although this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPalCIbGA8 made me a little bit more curious. And regarding the 3+2 thing that seems true, I always count to 5 in couples of 3s and 2s.

I'm sorry I may be stupid but I still don't understand how the keyboard works after having seen that second video. Seriously they should make a video where we can see what happens on the keyboard and on the screen at the same time.

Why every time the finger starts to slides the only letters left on the keyboard are "EABCD"? How do I type an 'n' for instance? I see that they do a round-trip to enter numbers, but how am I supposed to enter '6'?

These may be the worst demo videos I've ever seen.

I remember another alternative-paradigm keyboard, 8pen, which had pretty good and instructive videos. They should learn from that.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#15

Post by diggan »

Hm, feels like this should make it more complicated to enter text. Let's say I have a telephone and it has 11 buttons. 0 - 9, call and hang up. This is easy for a person to remember and use.

But, if we have a telephone with 4 buttons, 0 - 5 is one button, 6 - 9 is another, call and hang up is two others, the telephone becomes MORE complex and hard to use.

One button, one functionality feels like the easiest and fastest way to type, mentally.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#16

Post by matthewrudy »

gbog wrote: post #5

If the people doing this are listening: I don't think the business model is ok. If this keyboard is to get some traction, it will require us users to use it for real before paying. You can't have a keyboard lite, it's a vital utility, not a game. If I type a url or a password and discover that a character is only on premium, I'll switch back to my usual keyboard and not look back. Another remark: typing number is ver…

Swiftkey's approach is to give you 30 days free. Of course you can get around this, but with Swiftkey the more you use it, the more it learns. I imagine they have reasonable conversion rates.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#17

Post by [deleted] »

gbog wrote: post #5

If the people doing this are listening: I don't think the business model is ok. If this keyboard is to get some traction, it will require us users to use it for real before paying. You can't have a keyboard lite, it's a vital utility, not a game. If I type a url or a password and discover that a character is only on premium, I'll switch back to my usual keyboard and not look back. Another remark: typing number is ver…

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Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#18

Post by swombat »

diggan wrote: post #15

Hm, feels like this should make it more complicated to enter text. Let's say I have a telephone and it has 11 buttons. 0 - 9, call and hang up. This is easy for a person to remember and use. But, if we have a telephone with 4 buttons, 0 - 5 is one button, 6 - 9 is another, call and hang up is two others, the telephone becomes MORE complex and hard to use. One button, one functionality feels like the easiest and faste…

That's 12 buttons :-)

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#19

Post by adyda »

p4bl0 wrote: post #14
wingerlang wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There really is a lack of actual usage-videos which is kind of off putting. The posted "trailer" video didn't make me want to use it either, although this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPalCIbGA8 made me a little bit more curious. And regarding the 3+2 thing that seems true, I always count to 5 in couples of 3s and 2s.

I'm sorry I may be stupid but I still don't understand how the keyboard works after having seen that second video. Seriously they should make a video where we can see what happens on the keyboard and on the screen at the same time. Why every time the finger starts to slides the only letters left on the keyboard are "EABCD"? How do I type an 'n' for instance? I see that they do a round-trip to enter numbers, but how a…

Each of the 5 tiles represent a group of letters/numbers. The reason you see 'EABCD' is because he is only using the first (blue) tile. If you wanted to type 'n' you would put your finger on the yellow, which contains 'KLONM', and slide it to the fourth tile.

The numbers I'm not sure. I think it is the same concept with 1-4 on the first tile (blue) and other numbers on other tiles.

Still doesn't seem like it would be faster for typing.

Blue (1st) tile is EABCD, Green (2nd) is FIGHJ, Yellow (3rd) is KLONM, Orange (4th) is PQRTS, and Red (5th) is VWXY.

Re: 5 Tiles Keyboard

#20

Post by k-mcgrady »

Just downloaded it to try. WAY too high of a learning curve. For example to delete a character you swipe up on the first tile (likely accidentally activating Google Now). To show/hide the cheat sheet swipe down on the fourth tile. I can tell right from the start this is way too much information to remember. Swiping keyboards already work pretty well and are quite easy to pickup.
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