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OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by nemof »

ambler0 wrote: post #64
nemof wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this doesn't make it sound any better unfortunately. perhaps i might be unpopular in saying this, but he should just click the fuck through. either you want to spend your time getting stuff done, or spend your time prevaricating about the bush.

In any case, the spirit of my original comment was just to say that it's a notable omission from the article. I think that ansimionescu was right to point out the (perhaps subtle) difference between the author's actual explanation and my misquotation.

i might be being a bit grumpy, i guess it's estimable to take that kind of approach to agreeing to t&c's, but honestly on a case by case basis, you can quickly work out which sets of agreements you should spend time worrying about.

i think in his shoes i'd rather spend time debugging than peering over a somewhat self imposed roadblock.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by cr3ative »

julian_t wrote: post #23

I'm seriously unimpressed with 10.9 in general. I bought a new MBP a few weeks back, and the hardware is awesome... the retina screen, 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD make it a joy to use. But... * I enabled Bluetooth, plugged in my Magic Mouse, and the next time it woke from sleep wireless connectivity had disappeared and has only come back sporadically since * the machine occasionally 'loses' USB drives, complaining that I di…

This honestly sounds like hardware failure. Bluetooth is very stable for me with a Magic Mouse.

Your USB and HDMI issues seem related. I'd wager a power issue.

Make the problem reproducible and they'll swap it over at the Genius Bar, who are extremely helpful if you're polite to them.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by mturmon »

x0x0 wrote: post #45
radicalbyte wrote: post #7

I've been a Mac user for 6 months (MBP), I hardly tax the machine but it has crashed a dozen times. Twice today, and five times this week in total. Not since Windows 98 have I seen such an unstable OS. I've seen less BSOD in the last 15 years than I've seen kernel panics in the last week.

another mac user with the same problem. I've had 7 macbooks pros on various oses since 10.5 and osx is the first OS I ever just came to trust to run updates. But now, 10.9.x is a piece of shit. It hardlocks all the time (2-3 times a week), seemingly around external displays. I'm really feeling burned at this point. These 6-7 locks in the past 3 weeks since I got a new laptop are probably 50% of my macos crashes since…

I have seen increased lockups with 10.9.2. I replied because mine seem also to involve external displays (and/or Thunderbolt accessories). A possibly-related issue causing app lockups (Matlab) was caused by an old Java runtime interacting with multiple displays. Updating JRE fixed that. I have also gotten system-wide lockups on Thunderbolt plug-in (never used to happen with 10.8).

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by burke »

gav wrote: post #21
DominikR wrote: post #13

I've experienced a lot of crashes since 10.9.3 on a late 2013 rMBP, mostly when sleeping/waking the device. Also, my WiFi is randomly disconnecting all the time since the update. Before the update I never had any issues. I love the hardware and the OS a lot, but I never had any crashes with my ugly Lenovo, so I'm currently thinking about switching back to Lenovo

> Also, my WiFi is randomly disconnecting all the time since the update. I don't get the WiFi disconnects, but 10.9.3 has stopped being able to automatically connect to WiFi. Wake up Macbook from sleep and find WiFi disconnected. Click icon, see only a couple of SSIDs, click the one I want, get the "unable to connect dialog". Click icon again and wait for refresh; now see a much longer list of SSIDs. Click the same o…

Same here. Oddly, it always connects immediately at work, but fails in this same way at home, where I have an Airport Extreme router. You'd think if one combination was going to fail, it would be the one with two vendors.

EDIT: This is on 10.9.2.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by bluthru »

dman wrote: post #60
bluthru wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything with an A7 is a bit more understandable due to moving to 64 bit. 7.1 is already significantly better than 7.0 for 64 bit stability.

Safari crashes on a fairly frquent basis (> 10 times a day) even with the latest updates.

That's crazy. Is there a certain site that causes it more than others?

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by tambourmajor »

DominikR wrote: post #13

I've experienced a lot of crashes since 10.9.3 on a late 2013 rMBP, mostly when sleeping/waking the device. Also, my WiFi is randomly disconnecting all the time since the update. Before the update I never had any issues. I love the hardware and the OS a lot, but I never had any crashes with my ugly Lenovo, so I'm currently thinking about switching back to Lenovo

I had one crash since 10.9.3 on my MBA 2011, and I have graphic glitches in Safari when displaying images since 10.9.1, I believe.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by MBCook »

bkurtz13 wrote: post #12

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

That's my experience on my two Macs.

In fact, to the contrary, it seems to have finally fixed my issue where Mail would randomly stop fetching new messages from Gmail until restarted. At least I haven't seen the symptoms of that in a while.

It going to take me months/years to trust Mail again. Such a horrible bug for them to release with.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by epmatsw »

vemy wrote: post #15
radicalbyte wrote: post #7

I've been a Mac user for 6 months (MBP), I hardly tax the machine but it has crashed a dozen times. Twice today, and five times this week in total. Not since Windows 98 have I seen such an unstable OS. I've seen less BSOD in the last 15 years than I've seen kernel panics in the last week.

My Windows PC never crashed like my Macbook does.

As a counter-anecdote, I've been running 10.9.x on my laptop since the first beta and haven't had a grey screen since beta 2 came out. On the other hand, my 1 year old Windows desktop running Windows 7 has had 4 BSODs this year.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by lord_quas »

radicalbyte wrote: post #7

I've been a Mac user for 6 months (MBP), I hardly tax the machine but it has crashed a dozen times. Twice today, and five times this week in total. Not since Windows 98 have I seen such an unstable OS. I've seen less BSOD in the last 15 years than I've seen kernel panics in the last week.

I've kept this same mbp up to date for 2 years and... It hasn't crashed once in that time.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Post by pinaceae »

bkurtz13 wrote: post #12

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

2013 MBA - zero issues. And this is on a corporate machine with Meraki, Sophos and Symantec Encryption Desktop running on it...
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