It feels like I've been reading this exact headline once a week for a couple of years.. I started to believe that there is an infinite reserve of ipv4 blocks and we'll be just fine.
Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
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Re: Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
#102Meanwhile, most ISPs have done sod all about IPv6 and will probably only start when they start getting complaints from users that foo site doesn't work.
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#103So there is a lot of sentiment that I've been hearing over time about when exactly will IPv6 become a thing. Here's how I see it: Step -1: We started running out of IPv4 addresses. The internet is IPv4-only for all practical purposes. Nobody is doing IPv6 because it's still experimental. Your weird neck-bearded friends are talking about it, that's about it. Step 0: Inception! IPv6 is now a standard and you can route…
>Sales of T-shirts with "There is no place like 127.0.0.1" are replaced by "There is no place like ::1".
FTFY.
Re: Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a very interesting view and the closest thing that I've seen to date for a practical, workable solution to the current mess. I really like that. How are RBLs and other useful internet institutions that work on the basis of IPv4 addresses along the way with their IPv6 adoption?
I also wondered about this and any throttling-based protection / rate limiting based on IP. With IPv6 the address space is huge and makes blacklists far less effective (or much more memory consuming and slow, but that's something that can be resolved with things like Bloom Filters I imagine). It would take some time to adapt implementations. I speculate this gives attackers some opportunities to use old-style hacks t…
My guess is blacklistings will just expand netblock size if ineffective, much like they do on IPv4 in a limited manner now, just on a larger scale.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about 1 per car?
In practice, I imagine they'd outsource the internet connectivity bit to cellular carriers (as is the case for OnStar and similar at the moment) and those companies would be the ones to worry about provisioning IP addresses.
This, plus the IPs mobile networks use are all heavily NATed anyway.
Re: Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
#106This is the recovered pool that's finally running out, so short of reclaiming something drastic like the class A block 10 (you know, a really really bad idea), dang. Anyone know what IPv6 adoption is looking like these days? Google is showing like 3% of their connections are native to it [1], which does not look promising. 1: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6...
Great strides could be made if Google, Wikipedia, and other major destinations had a day where they displayed a box to non-IPv6-enabled visitors telling them to contact their ISPs and ask for IPv6 and explaining why.
If they really wanted to bring the world onto ipv6, they just need to drop the IPv4 version of their service.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
The cloud provider problem is definitely real. I have an idea for a service that requires both IPv4 and IPv6, but Linode and Rackspace were the two I found that both support native IPv6. Otherwise, it's something involving a HE.net tunnel, which I'm not comfortable with for more than experimental use.
A note on Rackspace: we see about 2–3% of the VMs we allocate come with only an IPv4 address. We have no idea why — we suspect it's a bug on Rackspace's side (we allocate everything automatically, through the same code path, so it isn't us!). We currently only use the IPv4 address (I know, I know!), but it does present a bit of a problem when/if we decide to move.
Hi there!
I work at Rackspace and I'd love to get our product engineers involved and review this issue for you. Would it be possible for you to email your account number and any pertinent server information (hostname/IP address/etc) to help@rackspace.com so that we can investigate?
Thanks! Andy Pape Social Media Support @Racker_Andy
Re: Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
In practice, I imagine they'd outsource the internet connectivity bit to cellular carriers (as is the case for OnStar and similar at the moment) and those companies would be the ones to worry about provisioning IP addresses.
This, plus the IPs mobile networks use are all heavily NATed anyway.
Perfect use case for IPv6 anyway.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm. I would argue that we're still in step -1, though the clean shaven folks have finally started listening to the neckbeards in a few circumstances and are slowly moving around towards step 0. Most people still can't actually route IPv6 over their tubes without going through a tunnel broker. At least for home, small office, and companies that aren't tech heavy, it's still firmly in the neckbeard camp.
Major (consumer) ISPs in Australia offer native dual-stack.
Which ones? I'm with iiNet and was wondering if they offered it yet but couldn't see anything about it online.
Re: Goodbye, IPv4 IANA Starts Allocating Final Address Blocks
#110My provider (Suddenlink) support rep responded to my question about IPv6 support with "No, we do not support it since almost no one uses it currently." S
Perhaps you can point them to sites like http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ and show them some of the stats on networks that are using it. You can also point them to the fact that Facebook, Netflix, Wikipedia and all of Google's sites are available over IPv6. So the "almost no one uses it" doesn't quite fly.
I am pretty sure they are well aware of that. It is just boilerplate response for reps to respond to IPv6 inquiries.