IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now • Hacker News Board

Re: IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now

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Post by MatthewWilkes » Fri, May 23, 2014, 12:40 AM UTC

pling wrote: post #5

X-Istence wrote: post #4

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Even if it is available a lot of companies just don't have the experience with IPv6 and are hesitant to turn it on. Which BTW sucks when you are trying to test your product on IPv6.

This is our problem. People just don't understand it in the operations team. Our devops guys know it inside out but they have to use the services the operations team hand out which means v4 and shitty hardware. Yes corporate structure sucks. The silly thing is that there are several NATs and brick walls in the company which wouldn't need to exist with v6. I myself am v6 end to end at home. Linode at the head end and…

I need to get my MyBook NAS working on IPv6 so I can disable v4 at home. I started using AA's 6464 DNS server, too, so I've got no outbound v4 at all now.

Re: IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now

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Post by slashCJ » Fri, May 23, 2014, 1:44 AM UTC

DrStalker wrote: post #15

X-Istence wrote: post #4

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Even if it is available a lot of companies just don't have the experience with IPv6 and are hesitant to turn it on. Which BTW sucks when you are trying to test your product on IPv6.

You need to be able to show a business benefit before making changes like that; right now changing to ipv6 would give no benefit, require replacement of existing hardware and create additional troubleshooting load. Until that changes there won't be widespread adoption of ipv6 by businesses.

At somepoint Congress needs to offer some small tax incentive and companies will slowly confert with that business justification. (Like the Electric Vehicle credit for network hardware - come on Cisco lobbyists get on that!)

Not sure if that if that extends internationally

Re: IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now

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Post by p1mrx » Fri, May 23, 2014, 2:16 AM UTC

Alphasite_ wrote: post #16

bshimmin wrote: post #10

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And a staggeringly awful 0.24% in the UK.

Theres no real pressure here at the moment, so they won't do it in any hurry. Its not like theres a massive growth in houses being built.

But Germany and the US are both above 7%. I don't think the demographic pressures are greater in those countries; they just have more ISPs with competent network engineers.

Re: IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now

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Post by nknighthb » Fri, May 23, 2014, 2:28 AM UTC

DrStalker wrote: post #15

X-Istence wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it is available a lot of companies just don't have the experience with IPv6 and are hesitant to turn it on. Which BTW sucks when you are trying to test your product on IPv6.

You need to be able to show a business benefit before making changes like that; right now changing to ipv6 would give no benefit, require replacement of existing hardware and create additional troubleshooting load. Until that changes there won't be widespread adoption of ipv6 by businesses.

> require replacement of existing hardware

This is the most ridiculous excuse people use. The premise doesn't even apply except in extreme cases:

1) 10+-year-old gear. (And even then only some; I've got plenty of decade-old gear lying around that supports IPv6 just fine.)

2) Extremely demanding performance requirements (to be in this category you'd likely be spending millions every year on gear and the people to run it).

3) Shitty $50 consumer gear.

If you're #1 or #3, you're going to need to fix that before long anyway, and even if you're #2, that's not applicable to your office network!

Hardware just isn't a good excuse for not turning on IPv6.