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Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by bsder »

mixmax wrote: post #14

It seems to me that the legal system in the US is largely broken, and that just about anyone can be sued if only you find the right grounds. Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive which is what patent trolls exploit. Why not use this offensively against patent trolls? Find all sorts of ways to take them to court, the American legal seems to have plenty of opportunities in that regard. There are som…

And the troll companies are always shell companies with nothing but the patents. So, even if you win, the shell company will declare bankruptcy. This is what changed the game. Before, two big companies generally had enough patents that they would simply agree to cross license because they both infringed one another's patents.

So, for the company being sued, it's a no win situation.

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by sgdesign »

> Thanks to the efforts of Lee Cheng and his legal team, the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals ordered a trial court to reconsider its earlier denial of Newegg’s request for attorneys’ fees and costs in the patent infringement lawsuit brought on by SUS.

Wait, so what did the trial court conclude? Are they making the troll pay or not? I feel like I'm missing something?

Also, isn't it worrying that they had to appeal in the first place?

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by mixmax »

jamra wrote: post #17
mixmax wrote: post #14

It seems to me that the legal system in the US is largely broken, and that just about anyone can be sued if only you find the right grounds. Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive which is what patent trolls exploit. Why not use this offensively against patent trolls? Find all sorts of ways to take them to court, the American legal seems to have plenty of opportunities in that regard. There are som…

The law firms that back up patent trolls are very large and very powerful. The largest and most powerful in the nation.

This is why extortion works - if your enemy is more powerful than you chances are you will subdue. The mafia figured this out centuries ago.

If you don't stand up to a bully, even if he is Goliath, he will keep on bullying.

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by mixmax »

bsder wrote: post #21
mixmax wrote: post #14

It seems to me that the legal system in the US is largely broken, and that just about anyone can be sued if only you find the right grounds. Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive which is what patent trolls exploit. Why not use this offensively against patent trolls? Find all sorts of ways to take them to court, the American legal seems to have plenty of opportunities in that regard. There are som…

And the troll companies are always shell companies with nothing but the patents. So, even if you win, the shell company will declare bankruptcy. This is what changed the game. Before, two big companies generally had enough patents that they would simply agree to cross license because they both infringed one another's patents. So, for the company being sued, it's a no win situation.

be a bit more creative. It's known who the parent company is, so sue them. Since you're basically just suing for whatever you can get away with you should of course go for the mother ship.

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by mixmax »

cag_ii wrote: post #19
mixmax wrote: post #14

It seems to me that the legal system in the US is largely broken, and that just about anyone can be sued if only you find the right grounds. Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive which is what patent trolls exploit. Why not use this offensively against patent trolls? Find all sorts of ways to take them to court, the American legal seems to have plenty of opportunities in that regard. There are som…

> Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive... I think you answered your own question there.

That's where the crowdsourcing comes in :-)

I'm sure there are young lawyers that would like to give some of these cases a try. Surely there must be someone with a conscience in that line of business. I could also imagine that companies and individuals might want to donate.

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by ArtDev »

I am a longtime customer of Newegg. No where will you find product reviews written by such a dedicated base of geeks. Newegg customer service is also really really good. I buy virtually all of my hardware on Newegg, even if its a few dollars more. That said, I am an even more loyal customer after reading this article.

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by the_watcher »

mixmax wrote: post #25
cag_ii wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive... I think you answered your own question there.

That's where the crowdsourcing comes in :-) I'm sure there are young lawyers that would like to give some of these cases a try. Surely there must be someone with a conscience in that line of business. I could also imagine that companies and individuals might want to donate.

Adam Carolla is spearheading a group of the top podcasts in the world doing exactly this. I've donated, I know Carolla can rub people the wrong way, but he's the guy you want running something like this, since he'll spend a ton of his own money to prove his point.

http://fundanything.com/patenttroll?locale=en

Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by [deleted] »

jamra wrote: post #17
mixmax wrote: post #14

It seems to me that the legal system in the US is largely broken, and that just about anyone can be sued if only you find the right grounds. Being sued and defending yourself is enormously expensive which is what patent trolls exploit. Why not use this offensively against patent trolls? Find all sorts of ways to take them to court, the American legal seems to have plenty of opportunities in that regard. There are som…

The law firms that back up patent trolls are very large and very powerful. The largest and most powerful in the nation.

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Re: Don't mess with Newegg

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Post by [deleted] »

jliptzin wrote: post #18
heyheyhey wrote: post #5

> Most companies choose not to recover their legal fees in patent suits because prevailing defendants are required to demonstrate that a plaintiff acted in bad faith. This is extremely difficult to prove and it’s usually easier to just walk away and count your losses – unless your name is Lee Cheng. Interesting. So if you're a patent troll, there is little to no downside to constantly suing companies aside from the l…

Legal fees? I would assume they have a team of full-time attorneys on payroll. Since their legal fees are fixed, they're incentivized to use that team as much as possible.

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