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Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Re: Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Post by josephcooney »

gelatocar wrote: post #9
scawe wrote: post #5

NBN(fiber to the premise) is already killed off. The new government is adopting Fiber to the node for future installations.

Not even purely fiber to the node any more, they are going with a "multi-technology mix"[1] So by the end of 2020, 98% to 100% of the population would have at least 25Mbps[2]. Which is maybe twice as fast as what we have now on average (as a guess). It is also way behind schedule and over budget[3], when being quicker and cheaper were its main selling points against the FTTP solution proposed by the Labor government.…

To be fair, the company executing on Labour's vision - NBNCo - was also going much slower than originally projected too.

Re: Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Post by threeseed »

tormeh wrote: post #3
gadders wrote: post #2

NBN? Anyone know what that is?

Australia's National Broadband Network. The gist of the article seems to be that Murdoch wants to kill off fibre in Australia because it's a threat to traditional TV.

Not "wants to". Did.

What the Coalition did with the NBN is a national disgrace.

Re: Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Post by cylinder »

tom_jones wrote: post #8

Interesting but it doesn’t get past the a priori objection to the NBN having been adopted without any economic or commercial assessment to justify it as a political fix when the election promise to provide better broadband at one tenth the cost of the NBN was shown to be hopeless and an embarrassing shambles. And it doesn’t demonstrate that the a priori probability that a proven entrepreneur in the field of Internet…

I agree, there are many absurd components of the NBN, the most obvious being the idea that the government should spend $2 billion to launch two satellites into orbit just to provide internet to the 400,000 most rural customers who can't get cellular wireless (yet).

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Post by dools »

cylinder wrote: post #16
tom_jones wrote: post #8

Interesting but it doesn’t get past the a priori objection to the NBN having been adopted without any economic or commercial assessment to justify it as a political fix when the election promise to provide better broadband at one tenth the cost of the NBN was shown to be hopeless and an embarrassing shambles. And it doesn’t demonstrate that the a priori probability that a proven entrepreneur in the field of Internet…

I agree, there are many absurd components of the NBN, the most obvious being the idea that the government should spend $2 billion to launch two satellites into orbit just to provide internet to the 400,000 most rural customers who can't get cellular wireless (yet).

It's not so ridiculous if you consider the fact that, with decent internet, that 400,000 might grow considerably in number, reducing housing pressure in the major urban centres and allowing Australia to grow without having to slather on MOAR INFRASTRUCTURE to Sydney and Melbourne's already groaning transport systems.

Re: Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Post by dools »

josephcooney wrote: post #12
gelatocar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even purely fiber to the node any more, they are going with a "multi-technology mix"[1] So by the end of 2020, 98% to 100% of the population would have at least 25Mbps[2]. Which is maybe twice as fast as what we have now on average (as a guess). It is also way behind schedule and over budget[3], when being quicker and cheaper were its main selling points against the FTTP solution proposed by the Labor government.…

To be fair, the company executing on Labour's vision - NBNCo - was also going much slower than originally projected too.

Yeah but by the time it finished, it would be far from being obsolete ;)

Re: Why Murdoch's media is gunning for your NBN (2013)

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Post by neumann »

threeseed wrote: post #14
tormeh wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Australia's National Broadband Network. The gist of the article seems to be that Murdoch wants to kill off fibre in Australia because it's a threat to traditional TV.

Not "wants to". Did. What the Coalition did with the NBN is a national disgrace.

let's not even speak of the 2014 budget.
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