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Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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Judging by how fast technology is evolving nowadays I can't even imagine what is going to happen in 10 years from now... We might not even have the Web... I don't think nowadays you can choose something for the next decade. Maybe for the next 2 years Maximum!

Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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Judging by how fast technology is evolving nowadays I can't even imagine what is going to happen in 10 years from now... We might not even have the Web... I don't think nowadays you can choose something for the next decade. Maybe for the next 2 years Maximum!

I think the web will be around in some form just about forever. I'm more bullish on the web being around 100 years from now in some recognizable form than I am on quite a few nation states or species of mammal.

Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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This is an exciting read, kind of like Game of Thrones for web frameworks.

Re: why there were so many "PLAY!" results in Google, that would likely depend on the query you use. Something like "play framework" would probably match for any page where someone said "I will play with this framework".

...which is another reason why "Go" was such a bad idea for a language name, BTW.

Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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post #4

"I still haven’t forgiven Microsoft for their countless misdeeds so Asp/C#/F# are all right out." So Xamarin is Microsoft now? Better tell them, because they don't know it yet. Clojure is a .NET language as well by the way.

Apologies for that oversight, Xamarin was not even mentioned on the C# wiki page and I had totally forgotten about them. That said, I see C# very much as a Microsoft eco-system component even though there have been several re-implementations (such as Mono and DotGNU). Just like I see Go as part of Google and erlang as part of Ericsson.

Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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I love Kohana (for a PHP framework) ... too bad it's no longer being developed.

Thank you for saving me some time. I missed that and thought Kohana was still being supported, but I just checked and found this: http://forum.kohanaframework.org/discussion/12509/final-rele...

So you are absolutely right. Will drop it from the list to try and will update the article.

Re: Choosing a Web Framework/Language Combo for the Next Decade

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I'm also a bit frustrated with the Yii situation, although I do understand why they're doing it. Yii 2.0 is a total rewrite, and it is technically very impressive. However they have had the disadvantage of not being able to ship until it reaches feature parity with 1.1 which has been a huge undertaking.

The lead developer, Qiang, is literally the second most active developer on github[0], so it's not like they're not trying - the guy is currently on a 370+ day streak - it has taken a huge amount of effort for them to get to this stage.

I would personally build on the beta at this point because I have a lot of faith in the core team and they've had a lot of time to iron out any major problems, at this stage any changes are likely to be quite minor or fixes, so the real release will probably ship before your new project does.

Kohana seems dead and CakePHP has historically been rather slow and ungainly.

The lack of library support for Lua is a bit annoying, but it's getting better and can possibly be mitigated by using Lua's FFI to talk to C. If the eco-system was a bit more mature OpenResty[1] would be pretty compelling.

0. https://gist.github.com/paulmillr/2657075 1. http://openresty.org/

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