Team Hoodie here. Happy to answer any questions you might have :)
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Hoodie – Fast web app development
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#102I'm not sure if it's just me, but I think this site hijacks my 'back' button. I'm trying to get a recreate but I'm having some trouble.
Will report back shortly.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
would like to know a bit more about comparisons with other realtime & offline-syncable BAAS like: Meteor, Firebase, AngularFire etc - As a non-dev, this looks very appealing, but before I start learning I wanted to know more about the strengths/weaknesses compared to others.
Hoodie is Open Source and more like BYOBAAS (Bring Your Own Backend As A Service), you can host it yourself, or pay someone to host it for you. You are not beholden to single company’s VCs. Meteor is about exposing backend and frontend APIs to the browser. Hoodie hides backend complexity as much as it can. The target audiences are very different. Hoodie aims for more frobtendy/designery types, in the future Hoodie de…
Firebase does provide robust retry behavior. It tracks data changes, allows explicit online/offline mode, and you can easily write event handlers for sync errors. It also has what looks to me like a much more complete security model.
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#104Moving from a request based business logic to data based business logic (processing incoming data, as opposed to processing incoming http requests) is an interesting shift. Does anyone know what this kind of system is called? I'd love to do more research.
Event-driven architecture
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#105looks cool on several levels: empowering people to build the things they want w/o being "1337", volunteer driven, a "noBackend"/"One Backend Per User" (http://www.infoq.com/presentations/private-backend) default for a freer internet, and named after one of the most versatile articles of clothing ever invented.
the hoodie-server repo clocks in at just under 3k lines of javascript, though. i mean, there are a bunch of plugins, and wc is far from the best metric, but it's the only one that i've time for while this is still near the top of the list, so i'll just ask:
is this whole project to be viewed more as kick-ass-but-still-in-progress codebase or more like a socio-political statement about what happens when you make creating a single user's experience the priority (vs. trying to roll out an app that could scale your user base while still managing to own all their data)?
anyway, it seems like some of each.
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#106We're working on a similar no-backend product called Hoist that does most of what Hoodie is but is a hosted solution. We do all the 'server' work so you can just build your app. We provide API's for everything from Data management (just post and get JSON) and user management. We're also working on integrating other cloud company API's so you can quickly get hooked up to them (and do the auth with tokens) on the server side and then use their API's in a fully client-side app.
Check it out: http://hoistapps.com
Would love to hear what anyone thinks if you give it a go. I can be emailed on ow@hoistapps.com
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#107looks cool on several levels: empowering people to build the things they want w/o being "1337", volunteer driven, a "noBackend"/"One Backend Per User" ( http://www.infoq.com/presentations/private-backend ) default for a freer internet, and named after one of the most versatile articles of clothing ever invented. the hoodie-server repo clocks in at just under 3k lines of javascript, though. i mean, there are a bunch o…
You basically nailed it :) — Hoodie is probably further along that it might seem. The team has been working on earlier iterations of this for nearly a decade now, and we have learned a lot along the way, allowing us to be very concise this time around. In addition, we have chosen a few powerful abstractions to make the actual implementation rather tiny.
That said, there is lots of work to be done, to make it, say, Rails, or Django-grade production ready, but the rough sketches are there and we are comfortable running a production app since December 2013, and we are working with a bunch of clients on their products, that we are comfortable with putting our reputation on the line for.
After 1.0 (we are pre), we want to be very explicit with the different levels of stability and maturity we ascribe to all parts of the system and the whole release overall. Our current production app handles 10k registered users on a small VPS without much sweat, so anywhere in that order of magnitude, with similar usage patterns, we thing Hoodie rocks the real-world, but if you are significantly diverging from this, we want to be careful and only recommend other’s to rely on Hoodie, when we have reasonable first or second hand experience of similar scale and use.
As for the socio-political statement: that’s definitely a big part of our motivation. We want to write and spread a story that isn’t the usual idea-vc-flip-sunset / abuse-overworking-cheating horror stories. And freeing data and empowering users is a future we want to see, so we are building it :)
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#108We're working on a similar no-backend product called Hoist that does most of what Hoodie is but is a hosted solution. We do all the 'server' work so you can just build your app. We provide API's for everything from Data management (just post and get JSON) and user management. We're also working on integrating other cloud company API's so you can quickly get hooked up to them (and do the auth with tokens) on the serve…
Cool! Glad to see more of this on the table :)
Re: Hoodie – Fast web app development
#109We're working on a similar no-backend product called Hoist that does most of what Hoodie is but is a hosted solution. We do all the 'server' work so you can just build your app. We provide API's for everything from Data management (just post and get JSON) and user management. We're also working on integrating other cloud company API's so you can quickly get hooked up to them (and do the auth with tokens) on the serve…
Hood.ie is open source, and your code is not. Any chance you can open source your code?
Re: Hoodie – Fast web app development
#110We're working on a similar no-backend product called Hoist that does most of what Hoodie is but is a hosted solution. We do all the 'server' work so you can just build your app. We provide API's for everything from Data management (just post and get JSON) and user management. We're also working on integrating other cloud company API's so you can quickly get hooked up to them (and do the auth with tokens) on the serve…
Hood.ie is open source, and your code is not. Any chance you can open source your code?
Our client library is entirely open source, but our platform itself is not as it's a commercial no-backend offering. This allows us to offer production-grade hosting for these types of no-backend apps.