I have not had any significant problems with ABP, but after trying out HTTPSB earlier this week it's become my most essential extension. It's not as user-friendly as Ghostery, ABP and a few others, but I really appreciate its ability to quickly show me what's actually happening on a given page. I would love to see it develop into a general-purpose diagnostic tool. After only having it installed for a few days, it's hard to imagine life without it - which is about the highest compliment I can give.
Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
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Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#12I rage quit Firefox years ago because it's impossible to discuss it's critical perf issues without people pointing shifting blame to plugins. It got so bad I ran clean installs that never had a plugin ever, still had perf issues, and people on the internet simply refused Firefox could be at fault. I switched to Chrome and have never looked back. I also have never had a single issue with any AdBlock plugin in Chrome.…
Once you get past about 30 tabs, Chrome performance drops through the floor while memory usage just balloons; by contrast, both Firefox and Safari hold up pretty well. That, plus sending every keystroke in the URL bar to Google, and a bunch of really quirky UIs that I deeply dislike, keeps me from using Chrome for anything but testing.
Edit: This seems to be a controversial comment. I’m curious whether folks disagree with me that Chrome doesn’t work very well for many tabs, or if they think that’s irrelevant to the discussion, or what?
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#13Given that advertising pays for a lot of the services we all use, the use of Adblock and similar programs constitutes defection in game theory terms - the more people who do it, the worse off we all are - which means even if you choose to do it yourself (I personally don't), it is against your interests to encourage other people to do it.
Also, given that computing is one of very few areas of technology in which our species is still making substantial progress, and that progress is driven by market demand, even if you want to make your workload computationally cheaper for yourself, it is very much against your interests to encourage other people to follow suit; if every web browser starts using less memory, everyone is worse off.
I'm not going to start trying to persuade you personally to cooperate rather than defect - that's a value judgment you have to make - but please at least appreciate that it's a bad idea to encourage other people to defect!
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#14Dear god... Why haven't I found this plugin before? This is pure awesomeness - makes up for lack of NoScript for Chrome...
I can finally disable ABP and Disconnect - ever since I used them, my web experience in general felt definitely more sluggish.
Thanks!
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#15The thing with all these plugins, I shouldn't care as a user, I should be informed about these issues.
If you use http://www.sublimetext.com/ you will get a dialog when scripts are running slow, as in, "Script XYZ took more than 1 second to process this file, you can disable it"
All I want in FF or Chrome is the same.
"Adblock blocked the UI for 4 seconds" "Adblock increased memory consumption by double"
Or they could even be more harsh and kill plugins that take too long and impact user experience like the Flash timeout.
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#16Adblock+ has been fine for me. Has anyone had any problems? Personally, Adblock+ has earned my trust over a long period of time, so it's hard to see myself switching to something else unless the reason was dire.
Trusting Adblock is hard because of the "acceptable ads" feature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus#Controversy_over_...
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#17I rage quit Firefox years ago because it's impossible to discuss it's critical perf issues without people pointing shifting blame to plugins. It got so bad I ran clean installs that never had a plugin ever, still had perf issues, and people on the internet simply refused Firefox could be at fault. I switched to Chrome and have never looked back. I also have never had a single issue with any AdBlock plugin in Chrome.…
Once you get past about 30 tabs, Chrome performance drops through the floor while memory usage just balloons; by contrast, both Firefox and Safari hold up pretty well. That, plus sending every keystroke in the URL bar to Google, and a bunch of really quirky UIs that I deeply dislike, keeps me from using Chrome for anything but testing. Edit: This seems to be a controversial comment. I’m curious whether folks disagree…
I don't think I've ever had the need for 30 tabs; the magic of the internet is that if I ever need to see a specific website, I can just type in a URL.
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
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Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#19Given that advertising pays for a lot of the services we all use, the use of Adblock and similar programs constitutes defection in game theory terms - the more people who do it, the worse off we all are - which means even if you choose to do it yourself (I personally don't), it is against your interests to encourage other people to do it. Also, given that computing is one of very few areas of technology in which our…
People will pay for things that they will really need, advertising/freemium is used for all the things that we don't really need.
Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one
#20MY GOSH! I never realized how slow my page loadings were. Removed ABP (and a couple of extensions) after reading this and the memory consumption just went to 1/2 of what it used to be, the page loading times are just incredible... I always wondered why Chrome is soooo much slower compared to Firefox (ABP not installed on Firefox) but never investigated further. Thank you so much!
I'm a big fan of Privoxy. Just get that stuff out of the browser entirely.