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Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by Tycho »

I have a theory that being overweight is mostly caused by lack of walking. Everyone seems to get heavier as they get older, and most people seem to be slim when they're students. Regardless of how 'healthy' their lifestyle is (ie. if they eat junk food, or go jogging).

So basically my theory is that when you're a student, you're probably walking a long way to get to university each day, and then when you're there you spend a lot of time walking about campus. When you leave university and get a job, you get into a car and drive to work, and then sit at your desk most of the day. And then retreat to the family home for the evening, rather than walking about town to meet your friends. Most people are aware of their sedentariness, and put effort into diets and exercise regimes (which they never dreamt of when they were younger), but without the daily walking it's an uphill struggle. So gradually over the years they put on the pounds, until virtually all of them have lost that slim figure.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by germancito »

>>Several prominent clinical trials reported no difference in weight loss when comparing diets purportedly differing in protein, carbohydrate and fat. However, these trials had major limitations; at the end, subjects reported that they had not met the targets for complying with the prescribed diets.

I would really like to know the percentage of subjects who did not comply with the diets. So far the evidence from many clinical trials shows that there is no effect of diet content on weight loss, as much as I like the article's point.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by greggman »

mistermann wrote: post #70
greggman wrote: post #66

Just a random "obvious" comment but.. I've lost some weight recently by cutting my intake. My inspiration was my sister who used to be 5'2" and 260lbs but is now ~130lbs. She got her stomach stapled and for some number of months was on a 500 calorie a day diet. (I don't recommend that) Anyway, seeing that and reading things here on HN about how calorie restriction has an order of magnitude more effect than exercise (…

Informative: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm http://www.mendosa.com/satiety.htm http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/foods-high-satiation-3799.ht... Imho the easiest way by far to lose weight is eat foods that combine low carb + high satiation index.

Thanks for the suggestion

It's not about satiation for me. It's about quantity. My point was until I've eaten a plate of food where plate of food equals pretty much any "standard" picture of a plate of food (https://www.google.com/search?q=plate+of+food&tbm=isch) my brain thinks "Dang, you haven't really eaten yet" and yet pretty much every picture in that link is over >1000 calories.

Note, I'm not saying satiating foods wouldn't be better. Maybe I won't desire a snack later or maybe if I eat slow I'll stop earlier (unlikely). Rather, I'm saying many years of eating a plate of food, and possibly second helpings, has my mind thinking and looking forward to those quantities. As in "Oh Boy it's dinner time! Looking forward to that plate-o-food!" then "Awwwwwwww, that's all I can eat be under my limit. That's not even 1/2 a plate worth."

I do it but I don't like it because my mind/habit/experience/expectation is "meal = XXXX" not "meal = XX"

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by aianus »

I wish I was fat so I could achieve my weight goals by sitting around working, watching TV, and not eating. Trust me, trying to gain weight is way more difficult and expensive and time consuming.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by bjlorenzen »

rdtsc wrote: post #77
DanBC wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason that Americans are fat include never walking anywhere but always using their cars; and drinking huge amounts of sugared water. http://imgur.com/9Xa92tr http://imgur.com/mUJsbPu http://imgur.com/GxgrGWg Experts have never said "eat bread" or "eat pasta" to people dieting. Are you mistaking "expert advice" for "populist nonsense"? You wouldn't be alone. Every single HN thread about nutrition contains fucking…

Given how little calories exercise burn per hour or per mile and I don't see blame on walking or not being a big factor. It surely is in the popular culture. Most importantly this idea is dangerous because it is used often in the PR campaigns of processed food manufacturers. "Drink the 1L soda bottle, it is ok, because then you can walk around the block to burn it off!" kind of idea.

The act of walking itself doesn't burn very many calories, no, but it does strengthen your legs (the largest muscles in your body) which then burn more calories 24/7.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by joel_perl_prog »

Mexxer wrote: post #47
joel_perl_prog wrote: post #21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTuJ6r1F2hA I've been helping my family and friends with this recipe, and it's changing lives. Literally. My father, who I taught how to eat vegetarian, has stopped needing insulin! (After heading steadily down the standard American road...sad...) If you add this smoothie to your daily life, and change nothing else, you will feel better. A lot better. You can still eat bacon and eggs f…

I don't think you are getting downvotes because developers don't care about their health. It's because you are saying that ONE smoothie is changing lives... which is a ridicolous statement. And it honestly sounds like an attempt for self promotion.

Also, serious question: why is sharing something in a higher bandwidth format than just typing "promotion?" Do you not promote your own thoughts and agenda any time you enter a comment? When I have no product, nothing for sale, no ads on the video, nothing like that, how does one conclude that sharing something, which is just me, commenting, really, in a higher bandwidth format, how do you conclude "promotion?" As I say, serious question.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by Spittie »

greggman wrote: post #66

Just a random "obvious" comment but.. I've lost some weight recently by cutting my intake. My inspiration was my sister who used to be 5'2" and 260lbs but is now ~130lbs. She got her stomach stapled and for some number of months was on a 500 calorie a day diet. (I don't recommend that) Anyway, seeing that and reading things here on HN about how calorie restriction has an order of magnitude more effect than exercise (…

>Potato-chips or fries or a sugary snack? Forget about it!

Well, it's supposed to be a diet after all :)

I think that one should remove snacks/sweets/junk foods from their life before even considering what kind of a diet one should do. After all, those are probably 50%+ of the intake (at least, they are of mine... I'm trying to stop) and there are very few foods with so many calories/carbs.

Sodas are particularly nasty, because one drink them all the day without realizing how much (my suggestion: switch to water, I've done it years ago and I couldn't be happier. Now I can't bring myself to drink a soda while eating, way too sweet).

(Unrelated) you know, I don't even like those this much. I just have a craving for them. When I finish eating those, I usually even drink a cup or two of water because I don't like the taste left in my mouth.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by magicalist »

Spittie wrote: post #87
greggman wrote: post #66

Just a random "obvious" comment but.. I've lost some weight recently by cutting my intake. My inspiration was my sister who used to be 5'2" and 260lbs but is now ~130lbs. She got her stomach stapled and for some number of months was on a 500 calorie a day diet. (I don't recommend that) Anyway, seeing that and reading things here on HN about how calorie restriction has an order of magnitude more effect than exercise (…

>Potato-chips or fries or a sugary snack? Forget about it! Well, it's supposed to be a diet after all :) I think that one should remove snacks/sweets/junk foods from their life before even considering what kind of a diet one should do. After all, those are probably 50%+ of the intake (at least, they are of mine... I'm trying to stop ) and there are very few foods with so many calories/carbs. Sodas are particularly na…

> Sodas are particularly nasty, because one drink them all the day without realizing how much (my suggestion: switch to water, I've done it years ago and I couldn't be happier. Now I can't bring myself to drink a soda while eating, way too sweet).

Ha, I don't understand people who say this. I've also cut sodas out of my life in exchange for water, and my weight has thanked me (a little), but I still find them delicious whenever I have them for a treat.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by tim333 »

Tycho wrote: post #81

I have a theory that being overweight is mostly caused by lack of walking. Everyone seems to get heavier as they get older, and most people seem to be slim when they're students. Regardless of how 'healthy' their lifestyle is (ie. if they eat junk food, or go jogging). So basically my theory is that when you're a student, you're probably walking a long way to get to university each day, and then when you're there you…

While I think your theory is quite likely an oversimplification I found it interesting looking for fat people while trekking in Nepal through villages with no roads where the only way of getting around was hilly trails. Basically there were no fat people amongst the locals and fat trekkers lost weight at a healthy clip, myself included. This in spite the restaurants including things like fried rice which go against most healthy eating menus. It would be an interesting experiment to build homes for the clinically obese that were in a valley with only walking access up the hill to the nearest eatery. I'd wage money that weight loss would ensue even if the eatery was a McDonalds.

Re: Always Hungry? Here’s Why

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #26

People who say "just eat less" aren't thinking like engineers. Engineers don't get to ignore the wrenches thrown into the works by reality. If seemingly simple advice fails for almost everyone, then the advice is flawed and someone thinking like an engineer has to figure out how to work around those flaws. I don't know if low-carb diets are the full solution, but I think they're at least part of the solution. Avoidin…

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