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How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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Re: How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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While I was reading this, especially in the beginning and again towards the end, I kept getting this feeling of this is a "long-winded sale of nothing at all". You know those websites, where this wonderfully crafted copy leads you on and on and on about selling you something special and magical without ever really revealing what it is. Typically, at the end of the nothing-sale will be a heavily-priced video or ebook…

I don't think I read the same article. If anything I would say that the article was not well written enough (!) - you got the wrong end of the stick so it did not put its point across for you.

I would precis it as

1. Realised something is bugging him (Website does not integrate with email tool) and knew he could code something up to fix it.

2. Before coding something to fix it, checks if there is a decent market (if email tool == free mailchimp, no; if email tool = thousands per year infusionsoft, yes)

3. Spec'd out a Facebook Adwords (or whatever its called) campaign to target only people who had `liked` infusionsoft. (basically used infusionsoft as a keyword). Probably that techie stuff is cheaper on FB than google.

4. Advertised a (non-existent but easy to write) series of emails that would basically "qualify" people - that is if you read all the email course you clearly wanted the damn solution.

5. Wrote course, collected emails, and now after getting a handful of real leads, wrote the product that did, oh who cares, it probably tags email addresses with "stage1" "stage2" etc. The important part is not what code he wrote but that he had got a market first.

6. tell the list he has the product, get some feedback, refine, persuade, and sell... (more here but hell, zero to one is important)

The only slightly scammy here is 4. to whit "qualifying" customers. Thats the point of these long sales pages and in many cases these email courses, its to ensure by the time someone reaches the end then they are really interested in the thing you have been talking about.

But its not spammy if its a real product that does a real thing that someone who really wants it will pay for. Its spammy if Brennan does not stop mailing people who don't want it. For example I have had over half a dozen automated calls today asking about PPI (if you are in the UK you will know). It should be obvious that I don't want it from the speed of the hang up. But they won't stop.

So this thing Brennan is doing is called "Audience Development". And if you think its spammy, well, maybe, but the New York Times just leaked its digital strategy and that boils down to "audience development".

In the end Brennan just said "find the market first, find someone willing to give you cash for a product".

I am personally refreshing all my old blog posts and how-tos and was going to stick them out there, blogs and email courses etc. Not because I have a pain point in mind (well, being me is a pain point), but because I want to try this whole thing out.

(Disclaimer, I'm occassionally on bdunn's community google group)

Edit:

There is nothing stopping this article being rewritten and titled "What Open Source Developers could learn from "white-hat-internet-marketers". I have a couple of OSS products I like and am occassionally proud of - I could, in fact hell, I will, launch a similar email course aimed at people who have the same problems as drove me to solve them, then they can pick it up and use it. Its the same techniques, the same professional approach, just F/OSS.

However, I need to realise I have missed out stages 1-2 which is finding who will buy the product (download and use the OSS code) - luckily they are basically me and people like me and I know where I hang out.

Re: How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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post #10

While I was reading this, especially in the beginning and again towards the end, I kept getting this feeling of this is a "long-winded sale of nothing at all". You know those websites, where this wonderfully crafted copy leads you on and on and on about selling you something special and magical without ever really revealing what it is. Typically, at the end of the nothing-sale will be a heavily-priced video or ebook…

I don't think I read the same article. If anything I would say that the article was not well written enough (!) - you got the wrong end of the stick so it did not put its point across for you. I would precis it as 1. Realised something is bugging him (Website does not integrate with email tool) and knew he could code something up to fix it. 2. Before coding something to fix it, checks if there is a decent market (if…

I think you summarized the steps here pretty well. A note on your first paragraph after item 6: I think to get over/around the "scammy" potential of this tactic, a good route would be to make sure the courses/articles are of true value. That is, not just fluff but something people can learn from even if they don't buy your product.

Re: How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I read the same article. If anything I would say that the article was not well written enough (!) - you got the wrong end of the stick so it did not put its point across for you. I would precis it as 1. Realised something is bugging him (Website does not integrate with email tool) and knew he could code something up to fix it. 2. Before coding something to fix it, checks if there is a decent market (if…

I think you summarized the steps here pretty well. A note on your first paragraph after item 6: I think to get over/around the "scammy" potential of this tactic, a good route would be to make sure the courses/articles are of true value. That is, not just fluff but something people can learn from even if they don't buy your product.

true - and to be honest I just "learnt" or perhaps consolidated a great deal from that one post - and even if that was part of a dropped course I would be happy.

no - Brennan is not doing spammy / scammy - hence my "white hat internet marketer" - Brennan is one of the good guys, it's just we have got to a stage in society where anyone selling is suspect. politicians, bankers, salespeople.

a shame really.

Edit - I think we need to accept the sales pitch as the modern day TV ad or the billboard. It does sell, it makes money and it can provide value for those who want the product. What hurts is the 20mins of ads per hour of TV or the cannot move for billboards Times Square.

the goal is to do adverts well - effective, entertaining and not too pushy. It's a hard line to walk - we made Madison age rich for finding people able to walk that line. I guess Brennan is one of the new Mad Men

Re: How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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post #14

I think the key takeaways from this article are: 1.) Advertise knowledge but give away for free 2.) Use knowledge (e.g. 5 day course) absorbers (users) to create an e-mail list. 3.) Create and sell product that addresses a pain point relevant to the people signing up for the knowledge.

The takeaway of the article is: give me your email, I want to sell you stuff.

I like the other approach better: provide useful, actionable information to assert your expertise and foster trust.

Then provide additional products and services for a fee (without stupid pricing tricks).

Re: How I Went From An Idea To Paying Customers In 3 Days

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post #12
post #10

While I was reading this, especially in the beginning and again towards the end, I kept getting this feeling of this is a "long-winded sale of nothing at all". You know those websites, where this wonderfully crafted copy leads you on and on and on about selling you something special and magical without ever really revealing what it is. Typically, at the end of the nothing-sale will be a heavily-priced video or ebook…

OP here. So, I'm not selling anything in this post. There is a CTA for my newsletter, but that's it. In this post I... * Talk about how I identified a "cash flow" (customers of X, in my case - Infusionsoft.) * Ran a simple ad campaign that was meant to help me find other customers of Infusionsoft. * This ad campaign drove people to an email course that covered why it's a good idea to show variable content to someone…

Throughout the text, there are cross-promotion links for your other products:

  1. The $199 "Double Your Freelancing Rate" book
  2. The $1,799 "Consultancy Masterclass"
  3. The "five day email course" itself, through which "[you]
     cross-promote [your] products"
  4. The $197 "WordPress Conversion Funnel"
As well as indirectly for Planscope.io itself. It's actually an impressive thing and I'm curious how well these links to your other products fare. Do the links in these articles end up converting leads at a decent rate?
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