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Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by z3phyr » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:22 PM UTC

monsterix wrote: post #58

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #52

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Let us apply a non zero amount of critical thinking and logic. > Narendra Modi and his team of murderers You either have evidence for that statement or you don't. 1. If it is the first, go to the courts, else you will be deemed complicit in the murders. 2. If it is the latter, you are not telling the truth. Which one is it?

You mean go to a Modi controlled court and ask milord Modi "where should I seek justice against the crimes you have been doing?" I am sure you are smarter than this.

Modi controlled courts? Dude, do you believe in Indian democracy? Judiciary is independent of the executives. I strongly suggest you go to the courts.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by amjd » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:23 PM UTC

datacog wrote: post #67

intull wrote: post #25

It might also be worth mentioning the numbers here. The BJP, party to which Mr. Narendra Modi belongs to, alone has got more than 50% of the seats in the Indian Parliament and nearly 60% with allies. The INC (Indian National Congress) has suffered a historic defeat with not even 10% of the seats. Which also brings the interesting fact that the NDA will not have a Leader of Opposition as none of the other parties hold…

> Which also brings the interesting fact that the NDA will not have a Leader of Opposition That is not true. INC can form alliances to claim opposition. The sad part is, they still want Rahul Gandhi to lead it. http://www.fakingnews.firstpost.com/2014/05/congress-looking...

In case you didn't notice, the article you linked is from Faking News, India's version of The Onion.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by scarmig » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:24 PM UTC

discardorama wrote: post #50

[deleted] wrote: post #46

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There's no "argument from authority". The OP said he was not Indian; and I replied I was. Maybe you should try to read your own Wikipedia link? Instead of unnecessary blather, why not post some informative links? Educate us all, instead of trolling from behind a keyboard. RSS is no more "violently anti-muslim" than the Congress Party is "violently anti-Sikh". Read up about the 1984 riots, and learn something for a ch…

There's the not minor point that Congress has formally apologized for its role in the 1984 riots, while Modi and the BJP have offered none for their role in 2002, instead comparing the murdered Muslims to puppies that sometimes happen to get run over by cars.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by snambi » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:25 PM UTC

datacog wrote: post #80

swatkat wrote: post #73

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@OP, Most likely Mr. Modi doesn't care about US visa. And, US visa is not a benchmark for someone's character.

> Most likely Mr. Modi doesn't care about US visa I would slightly disagree. To maintain relations, move forward discussion, a US visa would be helpful. And US has already been changing their stance since the last few months as they were aware of the possible Modi victory. But I totally agree that its not a benchmark of character.

Sorry US visa doesn't prove anything. If at all, it simply shows someone visa officer's understanding of Modi in 2002, thats all. The election is much better and neutral judgement of someone's character. Obviously the views of 500million people are better than one person sitting in a foreign country.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by not_that_noob » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:27 PM UTC

I find the Internet supporters of Modi/RSS/BJP a fascinating tribe. They are usually well-educated intelligent Indians, but with a marked tendency to turn off their critical-thinking faculties when the latter is mentioned. In addition, they expend enormous amounts of energy on the Internets trying in futility to paper over the obvious, and play the 'it's-all-a-aniti-hindu-conspiracy-card'. Hence the down votes for rather straightforward factual comments below.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by snambi » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:27 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #53

cstross wrote: post #33

Calling Modi "pro-business" seems like a bit of an over-simplication. He's a member of the RSS ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh ), which is arguably a violently anti-muslim paramilitary group, as well as leading the BJP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party ). It's not unreasonable to call the BJP centre-right on economic/business issues ... but they have other policies as…

Leaving this here before it falls to the bottom of the page: Narendra Modi and the rise of India’s neo-fascist Far-Right: The facts http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/04/narendra-modi-and-the-rise-...

Similar views were expressed when Vajpayee was elected in 1998. Vajpayee's term was one of best times India ever experienced. Lets see whether such things become true.

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by not_that_noob » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:29 PM UTC

Brakenshire wrote: post #104

chaofguan wrote: post #63

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I bet you are just a shill playing minority card again.

Seem to be quite a few newly registered, aggressively pro-Modi accounts on this thread.

It's the RSS Internet Wing I'm sure

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by snambi » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:31 PM UTC

yepyepyep wrote: post #28

breitling wrote: post #17

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From what I've read about this guy, there seems to be a lot more to add to the "ugly" column. - He equates the plight of muslims murdered in 2002 to a puppy run over by a car [1]. - He has been a life long member of party's most militant wing [2]. - He's not shy about delivering flagrant speeches. Seems to be a very divisive figure. If I were one of the minorities in India, this would be a very disappointing day. [1]…

I no longer live in India but have a large extended family that does. Being in the minority, they are filled with paranoia about what this could mean. I'm still skeptical if anything bad will happen but I am also not living there.

there is nothing to worry about. India has always been a secular country/land from time immemorial. The idea of muslim hindu division is of recent times, starting from british rule.

India has been ruled for many centuries by muslims and christians (british).

Re: India's pro-business Modi storms to historic election win

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Post by WasimBhai » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:33 PM UTC

After 60 years, just as Pakistan is unraveling with religious extremism that has permeated the fabric of society, India elects Modi, someone who has been a life long member of RSS, a fascist Hindu organization, and have often been accused of being complicit in Gujarat pogroms of 2002. An India, which was founded upon the principles of egalitarianism, a Pakistan which was to be a homeland for minorities.

60 years, and both of those principles falling to pieces in each of the states.

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Post by cmadan » Fri, May 16, 2014, 5:35 PM UTC

3apo wrote: post #79

cstross wrote: post #33

Calling Modi "pro-business" seems like a bit of an over-simplication. He's a member of the RSS ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh ), which is arguably a violently anti-muslim paramilitary group, as well as leading the BJP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party ). It's not unreasonable to call the BJP centre-right on economic/business issues ... but they have other policies as…

Like it or not Pro-business is probably why Modi was elected. Every economic indicator in India went downhill since the BJP has been out of power for the last decade[1][2] - IMO the single biggest contributing factor to get Modi elected. Indians have a short memory, the 2002 riots and other religious issues are not as relevant to the people as they used to be. [1] http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/1448580 [2] http:/…

Here are the GDP growth rates of India.

BJP Government

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1999 - 8.8%

2000 - 3.8% (Dotcom bubble busts)

2001 - 4.8%

2002 - 3.8%

2003 - 7.9%

Average GDP growth during BJP government - 5.82%

Congress government

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2004 - 7.9%

2005 - 9.3%

2006 - 9.3%

2007 - 9.8%

2008 - 3.9% (Recession hits)

2009 - 8.5% (Congress is re-elected for another 5 years)

2010 - 10.3%

2011 - 6.6%

2012 - 4.7%

2013 - 4.8%

Average GDP growth during Congress government - 7.51%

Considering that Narendra Modi has frequently pushed the GDP growth he achieved as the Chief Minister of Gujarat in his election campaigns, I think it is fair to recognise that on a whole, that atleast in terms of GDP, Congress did much better than BJP.

(I voted for neither BJP or Congress, so I'm unbiased on this)