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I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by mansr »

thegeomaster wrote: post #33

I don't think anyone should judge him based on the small amount of information available. I understand that his situation is mostly his fault, but there may be other things at play. Why be so fast to condemn someone when an unfortunate sequence of events could've put some of us into a similar situation? I'm not defending Xah Lee's irresponsibility nor I am defending people who condemn him, I just want to say that we…

He spent decades trolling everyone and everything on Usenet and mailing lists. He had it coming.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

He needs to find a social services office that can help him get organized and take care of his personal responsibilities. It's completely his fault that he's in this mess, but he probably has some kind of personal/mental health problem that requires assistance.

The one thing nobody should do is simply send him money or give him a job, since there's nothing on this page that indicates he won't go back to exactly the same thing he's been doing for the past 10 years.

(Also, 1600 rent? what the fucking fuck? dude needs to go sleep in a shelter and use that money to get a thrift store interview suit and pay off his bills)

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by dbaupp »

philbarr wrote: post #34
wfjackson wrote: post #11

Edit: He seems to have a lot of interest and worked a lot on good documentation, which is the bane of the typical OSS project. Why doesn't Red Hat/Google etc. throw some money at him to write docs for underdocumented OSS stuff? Sounds like win win for all. It's hard to find really smart developers that are interested in writing documentation.[End edit] If you don't really know him, his LinkedIn profile shows more det…

> 8 thousand visitors per day. 240 thousand visitors per month Could he set up Google Ads on there - automatic, passive income that just goes straight into his account?

Any estimates for how much income that would provide?

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by thegeomaster »

mansr wrote: post #41
thegeomaster wrote: post #33

I don't think anyone should judge him based on the small amount of information available. I understand that his situation is mostly his fault, but there may be other things at play. Why be so fast to condemn someone when an unfortunate sequence of events could've put some of us into a similar situation? I'm not defending Xah Lee's irresponsibility nor I am defending people who condemn him, I just want to say that we…

He spent decades trolling everyone and everything on Usenet and mailing lists. He had it coming.

Some more info? Didn't catch that.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by spudlyo »

bestest wrote: post #6

I simply can't resist it, but alas, see what will happen to you if you code in emacs! On the serious note though, he did admit he enjoys procrastinating. Why would I help someone who never had and still does not have any motivation?

I simply can't resist downvoting you, but alas, see what will happen to you if you joke about others misery?

On the serious note though, there is this thing called "empathy" where a person has the capacity to recognize emotions that are being experienced by another person. Have you ever been paralyzed by procrastination even when you knew that your continued inaction would be very bad for you? I have, so it's easy for me to understand what he's going through.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by partisan »

I can empathize and I feel bad for anyone in what feels like a helpless and hopeless situation. I sometimes feel like I am there as well despite having "enough" money for a rainy season or two.

Some people need to hit rock bottom to even begin to understand that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Manual labor, however humiliating and seemingly beneath him, may give him the proper motivation he seems to be lacking.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by dfc »

svisser wrote: post #24
dfc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you "simply cant resist" making a joke when another human is in the midst of a terrible situation you are a horrible person.

Terrible but self-inflicted?

I know that I am not perfect and have certainly made poor decisions in my life. But if you feel that being compassionate is not appropriate in this situation at the very least OP could stay quiet and not make jokes about another person's suffering.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by hyperpape »

philbarr wrote: post #34
wfjackson wrote: post #11

Edit: He seems to have a lot of interest and worked a lot on good documentation, which is the bane of the typical OSS project. Why doesn't Red Hat/Google etc. throw some money at him to write docs for underdocumented OSS stuff? Sounds like win win for all. It's hard to find really smart developers that are interested in writing documentation.[End edit] If you don't really know him, his LinkedIn profile shows more det…

> 8 thousand visitors per day. 240 thousand visitors per month Could he set up Google Ads on there - automatic, passive income that just goes straight into his account?

I see ads on his page.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by hadoukenio »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #42

He needs to find a social services office that can help him get organized and take care of his personal responsibilities. It's completely his fault that he's in this mess, but he probably has some kind of personal/mental health problem that requires assistance. The one thing nobody should do is simply send him money or give him a job, since there's nothing on this page that indicates he won't go back to exactly the s…

It's sad. Almost everyone (including people on that Python mailing list thread below) has jumped on him calling him a troll while (not to their own fault) missing that this guy has mental health issues. He needs professional help not money.

Re: I'm About as Good as Dead: The End of Xah Lee

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Post by bluefinity »

akuchling wrote: post #21
cognivore wrote: post #3

Is there context here I'm missing? The screen shot with the legal fee leads me to believe so, but I can't sort it.

Lee is a noted Internet crank, very sure he's completely brilliant and everyone else is a moron. I remember his flaming about the quality of the Python documentation, e.g. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2005-April/310...

Yeah, I have a feeling he might have burned a few bridges.

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2005-April/355...

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