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Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by erikb »

sspiff wrote: post #27
Jach wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you shouldn't need to at lower difficulties or on easier campaigns, you can always quick save before a move or at the end of your turn and reload if you didn't like the result of your move or the enemy moves. Do it a lot in the early scenarios to build up hero unit reserves and see if you can make it through later scenarios without reloading. Mark the turn start save and try a strategy, if it fails go back to t…

This technique has a (derogatory) name in the world of strategy games, "save scumming". I think in a single player game, the only thing that matters is that the player has fun. It is more common practice in games like RPGs, but less looked down upon, since certain quest lines and story elements are mutually exclusive. Think of the typical choice of being a "good" or "evil" character, and how they sometimes lead to di…

It's a bad thing if you only think about winning the current scenario with the least amount of skill involved. It's a very good thing though if you are using it to experiment and learn strategies and mechanics in a single player game.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by JoshTriplett »

I don't play the standard Wesnoth scenarios very often anymore, but because Wesnoth has a full scripting language in it to construct custom scenarios, people have invented whole new games for it.

I personally enjoy the "SurvivalX" family of single-unit multiplayer RPG campaigns: you have a party of adventurers, one unit per player, that gain experience and gold through combat, and can develop skills, spells, abilities, new weapons, and otherwise become more powerful, leading up to large boss fights against the leaders of the opposing armies. And when you lose your one unit, you lose.

RPG scenarios provide a very different feel from the standard game of Wesnoth, but personally I enjoy them far more.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by DDR0 »

Vaskivo wrote: post #36
listic wrote: post #8

I wish they finished Wtactics, the card game. http://wtactics.org/

I didn't know about Wtactics. Is it from the same devs? While I see the value of Wesnoth, it's not my kind of game. Now a constructed card game, that I enjoy! Browsing that website, I think the game rules should be easier to find.

I think it uses the art, or at least was heavily inspired... seems to be something there, but the original programmer moved on to do this ccg instead. https://github.com/davewx7/Citadel (It's still a work in progress, though.)

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by BryantD »

izietto wrote: post #49

I've just discovered that one of the biggest contributors [1] is Eric S. Raymond [2], who is the author of The art of UNIX programming [3] and one of the open source contributors of all time I admire most. [1] https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/graphs/contributors [2] http://www.catb.org/~esr/ [3] http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/

FWIW, this is mostly scenario design and writing contributions. Which are of course also important.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by haliphax »

acc00 wrote: post #30

A link to github when the project has a well-made functional website? Did you want to show us the source code specifically?

I'm wondering the same thing. Also, this is not even close to new. My understanding is that it has been open source and freely available for quite some time.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by kybernetikos »

saraid216 wrote: post #50
pedrosorio wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Consistently unlucky" =)

Yeah. I took notes across half a dozen games for a while before I realized I was depressing myself with empirical proof that the universe noticed me.

Team up with a friend, go to a casino and bet red/green. Get them to bet the opposite way, but in larger denominations.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by saraid216 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #56
saraid216 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I took notes across half a dozen games for a while before I realized I was depressing myself with empirical proof that the universe noticed me.

Team up with a friend, go to a casino and bet red/green. Get them to bet the opposite way, but in larger denominations.

You realize that is a bet on the fact that I'll lose, right? What makes you think that my luck wouldn't apply to that?

I recognize that you think I'm stupid, and I recognize that I haven't actually provided you with the hard data. But I'm not sure how that justifies trying to use someone's depression as a tool for profit.

Are you this much of a dick to everyone? Or am I just unlucky?

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by SixSigma »

Morgawr wrote: post #13

This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when I was 17 I got hospitalized (nothing serious or life-threatening) for a couple of months and back then I didn't have internet everywhere or a smartphone to keep me company. My parents had brought my laptop to me but having no internet was really really boring. I had Linux installed but, alas, in 2006-2007 there weren't many Linux games to keep me compa…

Isn't life strange. I had to wait over 15 years for my computer to be connected to the internet and somehow I managed.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by Morgawr »

SixSigma wrote: post #58
Morgawr wrote: post #13

This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when I was 17 I got hospitalized (nothing serious or life-threatening) for a couple of months and back then I didn't have internet everywhere or a smartphone to keep me company. My parents had brought my laptop to me but having no internet was really really boring. I had Linux installed but, alas, in 2006-2007 there weren't many Linux games to keep me compa…

Isn't life strange. I had to wait over 15 years for my computer to be connected to the internet and somehow I managed.

Were you stuck in a hospital bed all that time without any chance to go out, see your friends, breathe fresh air or even eat food properly?

I managed to read around 10 books in the first week I was hospitalized, my parents didn't know what to provide me anymore because I just tore through every piece of literature I could find.

Re: Show HN: Wesnoth – Free, turn-based strategy game

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Post by kybernetikos »

saraid216 wrote: post #57
kybernetikos wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Team up with a friend, go to a casino and bet red/green. Get them to bet the opposite way, but in larger denominations.

You realize that is a bet on the fact that I'll lose, right? What makes you think that my luck wouldn't apply to that? I recognize that you think I'm stupid, and I recognize that I haven't actually provided you with the hard data. But I'm not sure how that justifies trying to use someone's depression as a tool for profit. Are you this much of a dick to everyone? Or am I just unlucky?

I believe in testing things. I don't expect it to work since I assume that it's much more likely you fall within the normal range of luck, but I think doing the experiment would be interesting.

The central point is that if you have an unusual source of information about chance outcomes, even if it's negative, there should be a way to use that to gain.

If you think that the universe can make sure you don't gain financially from chance you could try a test that pits some other kind of gain against financial gain and see which way the universe goes. Some people bet against their favourite sports team so that whatever the result, at least some good will come of it.

Sorry to hear you're depressed.

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