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Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's ignore the problem and it'll go away?

Netflix has been using DRM for years, does it really make it worse?

Do you have a native and supported way to watch Netflix on Linux? No. So it does make the experience worse (it's one of the biggest missing components, not implying the only one).

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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Can some one explain to me why having, say, an HTML 5 based video player with DRM would be worse than one implemented in a closed platform like Silverlight or Flash? I'm genuinely curious, and not trying to make an argument here.

I have the same feeling. Few people I know even use a browser to watch that type of content anymore. Frankly I think native apps on the TV, Nexus 7, iPad, etc won already and this isn't going to be used much.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's ignore the problem and it'll go away?

Netflix has been using DRM for years, does it really make it worse?

That's one of the reasons I'm not using Netflix (and I'm not buying Blurays). Additionally both don't work under Linux.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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I would hope that rebranded versions of Firefox such as Iceweasel will strip the DRM support, so I guess it is not like it will be forced on people who don't want it.

Of course, this is still bad news, because it means there is no more pressure on content owners against this DRM, which can eventually become painful for people who want to avoid the DRM.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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Can some one explain to me why having, say, an HTML 5 based video player with DRM would be worse than one implemented in a closed platform like Silverlight or Flash? I'm genuinely curious, and not trying to make an argument here.

The whole point of replacing Flash with HTML5 video is to get rid of buggy third party plugins that crash all the time and have shitty cross-platform support.

If HTML5 video is going to rely on buggy third party DRM plugins, we lose the benefit that was the whole point of HTML5 video.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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From a comment by a Mozilla employee on another thread, it seems that the UI for this has not yet been determined[0]. It's possible that this may be presented to the user in a way similar to a plugin installation, except that the plugin happens to be provided by Mozilla (not a third-party). This isn't great, but to the end user, it looks the same as Flash and Silverlight. Especially if Mozilla were to add click-to-pl…

What really worries me is the fact that now it's going to be way easier to implement something with DRM. A lot of users nowadays are not willing to install some third party plugin. The fact that it comes with the browser means that it's extremely easy to implement something with that DRM. I might be wrong, since I haven't read much about it.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

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Can some one explain to me why having, say, an HTML 5 based video player with DRM would be worse than one implemented in a closed platform like Silverlight or Flash? I'm genuinely curious, and not trying to make an argument here.

DRM is less likely to be inflicted on users if every publisher must put effort into their own less-polished version.

Re: Can This Web Be Saved? Mozilla Accepts DRM, and We All Lose

#20

Can some one explain to me why having, say, an HTML 5 based video player with DRM would be worse than one implemented in a closed platform like Silverlight or Flash? I'm genuinely curious, and not trying to make an argument here.

It would be worse because HTML is supposed to be a hypertext standard, not a DRM standard. We shouldn't be putting closed things in "open" standards.
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