I immediately recognized the `pact` tool to be a clone of `apt-cyg`. Did a search on the repo source to confirm (https://github.com/babun/babun/blob/45484c55a3b017248329ddd5...). It seems as if the author of Babun is trying to pass off apt-cyg as his own creation.
Babun – A new Windows shell
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Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#92Lost me at "based on Cygwin". Yes Cygwin brings some unix goodness, but it has enough warts that I avoid it.
I wish I knew why so many Windows devs hate Cygwin. It has some pretty poor default settings, but you can change your .bashrc just like on Linux, or ditch the whole thing and use zsh instead, which works out of the box with oh-my-zsh (it looks like Babun does this as well.) For me, Cygwin is a very comfortable environment for git, programming and basic file management. It's also the only way to get Linux shells to ru…
I don't hate Cygwin, but anything using it should bill itself as "blah on top of Windows", not "blah for Windows".
(Or alongside if you want to say it that way.)
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#93I immediately recognized the `pact` tool to be a clone of `apt-cyg`. Did a search on the repo source to confirm ( https://github.com/babun/babun/blob/45484c55a3b017248329ddd5... ). It seems as if the author of Babun is trying to pass off apt-cyg as his own creation.
Going down the list of Babun features, it doesn't look like much more than repackaged cygwin. I thought pact was the biggest innovation, but as a clone of an existing project it seems misleading to call this "a new Windows shell."
It isn't without value, as others have said cygwin could be made more usable out-of-the-box, but a little more credit should be given where credit is due.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#94I love you. I was thinking how awesome it would be to use tmux on my windows machine so I tried pact install tmux and it worked.
Thank you so much, that's pretty awesome.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#95I immediately recognized the `pact` tool to be a clone of `apt-cyg`. Did a search on the repo source to confirm ( https://github.com/babun/babun/blob/45484c55a3b017248329ddd5... ). It seems as if the author of Babun is trying to pass off apt-cyg as his own creation.
I also noticed this. I immediately thought ot myself, "How is this any different than my current set up with Cygwin and apt-cyg?"
Surprise: It's not!
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple makes it hard to run OS X on anything but Apple hardware. For anyone that doesn't want to be bound to Apple hardware, this is not really even a real option.
It's trickier to get OS X working on a laptop, but building a Hackintosh desktop is quite easy. A lot of motherboards are entirely compatible, while everything else (CPU, RAM, storage) works anyways.
Aside from the fact this is not strictly legal, my experience has been that this is more effort than it's worth. And if you have any hardware that's a bit non-standard, you can forget about it.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is nothing wrong with current shell. Who needs window resize or copy&paste anyway?
You can resize a cmd shell in the properties, and as someone posted in a sister thread, turn on Quickedit to smooth out copy and paste. Turning on tab completion requires some fiddling though (and I have no idea if it survives in newer version of Windows).
Seriously, have you tried these "solutions"? It's like rubbing salt into the wound.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can resize a cmd shell in the properties, and as someone posted in a sister thread, turn on Quickedit to smooth out copy and paste. Turning on tab completion requires some fiddling though (and I have no idea if it survives in newer version of Windows).
Seriously, have you tried these "solutions"? It's like rubbing salt into the wound.
Sure. But I don't have a lot of Unix/Linux background, so I don't really know what I'm missing.
(I anyway wouldn't try to defend them as solutions, just clarifications of what is possible)
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Because they prefer Windows. 2. Because their company has standardized on Windows desktops and/or hardware. 3. Because some people might actually believe and have good evidence that Windows is a more "developer friendly" operating system for their needs.
1 and 2 are perfectly legit reasons to use Windows. 3, though seems weird. If you're installing something like Babun to make your windows machine act more like a nix machine, it seems reasonable to assume that a nix box would be better for your development needs, and that you have some other reason for using windows (like #1 or #2).
Keep in mind that it's making the box act MORE like something else, but NOT less than what it currently is. People using cygwin and stuff like babun don't take away from windows, they add to what windows already provides, gaining a more diverse toolbox. On the flipside, adding things windows provides to *nix boxes to gain the same diversity in the toolbox would be very very hard.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#100I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?
Blackbox is working on windows 8. If you head over to deviant art you can find some shots of working setups on the Blackbox group: http://blackboxdesktop.deviantart.com/
Is there a centralized site for blackbox? I had trouble finding resources when installing on windows 7.