On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings • Hacker News Board

Re: On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings

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Post by ibsulon » Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 3:14 AM UTC

bdittmer wrote: post #22

sjsivak wrote: post #13

Is anyone else really curious what sort of degree the author of this article has? I just graduated in May and almost everyone I know with a CS or engineering degree found jobs pretty easily. It was only the bottom of the barrel that struggled, and even most of those people still managed to find something in their field.

I was wondering the exact same thing. That BA in a philosophy wasn't such a good idea after all, eh skippy? :D

Oddly enough, Philosophy is a poor choice here. When measured, philosophy graduates end up doing quite well on the median, possibly because it is a path to law school for many but also because it teaches many skills that end up being useful in the workplace.

I suggest media arts. :)

Re: On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings

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Post by ibsulon » Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 3:16 AM UTC

unlinkedlist wrote: post #49

krschultz wrote: post #12

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It's not.

I'm perplexed by this. I pay $44/month for Blue Shield California health insurance. Prior to that I live in Washington state and paid only $37/month. Clearly, I'm a recent graduate, and I'm young and healthy, so lots of people won't be able to get that sort of policy. But the article specifically addresses young, healthy, recent graduates! For some reason the Blue Shield website isn't responding for me right now, but…

How much are you making a month? 10/hr, 40 hours a week, that's 1600 bucks before taxes, ends up being much harder to pay 80 dollars a month from. Hopefully, you don't have student loans to pay back too. (Hopefully, you don't have a kid!)

Re: On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings

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Post by adrianwaj » Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 1:12 PM UTC

adrianwaj wrote: post #68

olliesaunders wrote: post #66

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I think it's pretty bad if their parents and teachers let "College boy" believe that for so long. This [TED talk]( http://ted.com/talks/lang/eng/alain_de_botton_a_kinder_gentl... ) might be of interest.

de Botton: Snobbery is taking a small part of someone and judging them in their entirety by it. It is an intensely ugly trait.

_why's most fave'd tweet:

"when you don't create things, you become defined by your tastes rather than ability. your tastes only narrow & exclude people. so create."

Re: On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings

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Post by presidentender » Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 4:39 PM UTC

rsheridan6 wrote: post #97

presidentender wrote: post #70

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Or you could work while going to school, skip the partying, ride a bicycle, and keep your debt to a repayable level. I am 22 and I have a real job. During school, I washed a lot of dishes, picked up a lot of construction site refuse, drove a lot of nails, cut a lot of boards, and cleaned up a lot of spyware. Now I write software, for more than the spyware and dishwashing, but less than the construction. I'll still be…

It depends on what you're doing and where you're going. I suppose that might be reasonable at a big state school with relatively low tuition for a CS degree, which makes sense at this website. OTOH, if you're going to a private school or a professional school, your part time job doesn't amount to squat compared to tuition. In almost any imaginable scenario, you have it worse today than some 50 year old had it in the…

You hit it right on. Part-time jobs, full-time in the summer and over winter break, big state school for Math and CS. You're also absolutely right that the 50 year old had an easier time of it, but the rising cost of schooling is a whole 'nother beast.

Re: On those "Entitled" Twenty-Somethings

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Post by calcnerd256 » Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 5:00 PM UTC

David wrote: post #48

calcnerd256 wrote: post #35

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Surely we can hack our language to get across our emotions civilly without resorting to swear words. I appreciate your comment and hope the sentiment you expressed is more widely shared around here.

What exactly is the problem with swear words? He's using a word with the appropriate emotional connotation to express his message. Why hack a system that doesn't work when we already have one that does exactly what we want?

We should reserve them for the most extreme times so as not to water them down. I think of the language progression as inflation. Until we come up with more-offensive phrases to replace the swear words we have, those words are the emotional cue just below escalation to physical violence.