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Babun – A new Windows shell

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Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?

I've been using ConEmu [0] for over a year now, and it's miles better than the default console. I actually spend a majority of my time in Windows in the console now.

[0] http://sourceforge.net/projects/conemu/

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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Lost me at "based on Cygwin". Yes Cygwin brings some unix goodness, but it has enough warts that I avoid it.

I wish I knew why so many Windows devs hate Cygwin. It has some pretty poor default settings, but you can change your .bashrc just like on Linux, or ditch the whole thing and use zsh instead, which works out of the box with oh-my-zsh (it looks like Babun does this as well.) For me, Cygwin is a very comfortable environment for git, programming and basic file management.

It's also the only way to get Linux shells to run on Windows, since they all rely on fork(). Even MSYS is just a fork of Cygwin 1.5.

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple makes it hard to run OS X on anything but Apple hardware. For anyone that doesn't want to be bound to Apple hardware, this is not really even a real option.

Why wouldn't you want to be bound to Apple hardware? I've yet to come across a laptop form-factor that even approaches the Macbook Air. The hardware is a strong selling point for Apple devices. Sure, you might be able to put together a more powerful machine for a lower price, if your time isn't worth much to you or you enjoy building computers, but have fun machining an aluminum casing for it and getting it under 3 l…

The Macbook Air has had a pretty embarrassing screen resolution for some time now. There's also a dearth of peripheral connectivity for more advanced setups. That's even assuming I want an ultrabook and not something else entirely.

It seems a little arrogant to assume your specific hardware requirements are everyone's hardware requirements.

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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A more mainstream alternative is cmder: https://bliker.github.io/cmder/

That looks like mostly a skin for conemu, no? I've desperately wanted to like conemu, but every time I use it something ends up broken in weird ways (hung tabs, garbled output).

Have you reported your problems? Thought no...

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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post #2

I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?

Power shell?

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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post #10
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I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?

There is nothing wrong with current shell. Who needs window resize or copy&paste anyway?

Now, now, be fair.

alt-space > e > p becomes pure muscle memory.

It's actually a really elegant key combination that I definitely did not have to look up 10 times before it stuck because no other program uses it.

And of course powershell, which doesn't Get-Have-The-Most-Over-Verbose-And-Stupid-Naming-Conventions-Ever and have a terrible language design that results in [console]::writeline("Powershell {0} being a complete farce", "not") solves a lot of these problems.

Re: Babun – A new Windows shell

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is why I can't hate Microsoft. They've vastly improved over the past 20 years! Why, I remember when Windows became dangerously unstable when you did not properly release a GDI resource or passed the wrong things into RegisterClass...

What has Microsoft to do with MSYS2?

I think he was referring to this bit: > Windows becomes dangerously unstable after too many calls to fork.
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