Lost me at "based on Cygwin". Yes Cygwin brings some unix goodness, but it has enough warts that I avoid it.
Can you give some examples?
Babun – A new Windows shell
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Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
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#43I don't mean to sound like a prick, I'm just genuinely curious as to why someone would use windows for some CLI work. Are you using some software that isn't available on more developer-friendly operating systems?
My situation is I have a Windows machine I game on and don't like rebooting all the time to get into my arch partition. It'd be nice to have a good shell to do some dev work on if I wanted to fix something really quick without rebooting. Right now I just boot up a vm and work on that. Shells I've used in the past (ConEmu, Console 2, Cmder) have all been good, but not good enough.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#44No PowerShell integration makes this useless to me unfortunately.
Everyone who would be satisfied by Cygwin is already using cygwin. so this will not help them. and people using CMD must use CMD for some reason, and even though that crowd would be please by just being able to maximize their windows, this does not offer any improvement for those people. sadly, i'm in the second group.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#45I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?
Blackbox is working on windows 8. If you head over to deviant art you can find some shots of working setups on the Blackbox group: http://blackboxdesktop.deviantart.com/
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#46I was actually expecting a new GUI shell for the recent windows versions. I used to run bb4win in the w2k times, but it doesn't look like win 7/8 have any popular alternative shells available. Does anyone know of those?
Blackbox is working on windows 8. If you head over to deviant art you can find some shots of working setups on the Blackbox group: http://blackboxdesktop.deviantart.com/
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a self-taught programmer. I've basically been using linux 99% of the time for the past five years, and just have a partition that runs windows if I need it. Funnily enough, the first real programming gig I landed is a full time job doing full stack .NET development, so now it's sort of flipped around. I do miss the command line. I'll have to check this out. I've been looking for a good windows shell replacement.
The other thing worth looking at is the MinGW project. It's pretty easy to get started with the mingw-get package manager (there's an installer you can find here: http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Getting_Started ). Once you have mintty running as your terminal emulator, and a decent shell like bash, life gets a whole lot easier. The upside is that it's fully native without Cygwin's compatibility layer. The downside is that…
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#48"on top of Cygwin"... So does it mean still no copy&paste?
Copy and paste work here.
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Because they prefer Windows. 2. Because their company has standardized on Windows desktops and/or hardware. 3. Because some people might actually believe and have good evidence that Windows is a more "developer friendly" operating system for their needs.
1 and 2 are perfectly legit reasons to use Windows. 3, though seems weird. If you're installing something like Babun to make your windows machine act more like a nix machine, it seems reasonable to assume that a nix box would be better for your development needs, and that you have some other reason for using windows (like #1 or #2).
Re: Babun – A new Windows shell
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other thing worth looking at is the MinGW project. It's pretty easy to get started with the mingw-get package manager (there's an installer you can find here: http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Getting_Started ). Once you have mintty running as your terminal emulator, and a decent shell like bash, life gets a whole lot easier. The upside is that it's fully native without Cygwin's compatibility layer. The downside is that…
http://code.google.com/p/mintty/ seems like it still uses cygwin1.dll (or whatever it's called these days). Am I missing something?
MSYS/Mingw are native ports of the GNU software tools and friends.