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Red wine health benefits 'overhyped'

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Re: Red wine health benefits 'overhyped'

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Post by orthecreedence »

As is yoga, gluten free foods (for 99% of people who think they need it), antioxidants, etc.

In general if you hear five people a day tell you how "X changed my life!!1" it's probably bullshit mixed with a pinch of placebo.

Want to have a good life and be healthy? Spend more time outside, avoid long commutes, take long breaks, do things you like doing whenever possible, value yourself and your time, and don't take shit from people. This way even if you do die young, you'll die with a smile.

Re: Red wine health benefits 'overhyped'

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Post by shanev »

toby wrote: post #6

"Many studies have sought to explain why there is a low incidence of heart disease in France, despite many of its inhabitants eating a high-fat diet." It's funny that this is where this theory came from. It was unfathomable at the time that maybe we were wrong about dietary fat.

Apparently it still is unfathomable that fat may actually be good for you since that sentence was included in the article.

Re: Red wine health benefits 'overhyped'

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Post by Totoradio »

bwanab wrote: post #26
davidw wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - The French smoke like chimneys In Italy, this is actually changing fairly quickly. 10+ years ago, they banned smoking indoors, and I figure that, like a lot of rules here, people would sort of pay attention for a few weeks and then gradually ignore it, but the reality is that it's actually been fairly strictly enforced/followed, and people are happy with the results. Smoking is still more common than in the US, b…

It's changing in France also. I'm old and most of my French friends are old and not one of them smokes. This is obviously anecdotal and selection bias, but in my 20+ years of observing I've noticed that restaurants have gone from smoke filled rooms in which everyone is smoking to the occasional smoker at the table next to you.

Smoking in bars and restaurants is banned in France since 2008. You won't find anyone smoking in restaurants now.

Re: Red wine health benefits 'overhyped'

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Post by cwilson »

virtualwhys wrote: post #16
cwilson wrote: post #7

It always surprises me when people focus on one small part of a diet that they hope is some kind of super-cure (or in this case, they want an excuse to drink red wine more often). Of course red wine on it's own isn't going to do anything for you, it's your entire diet and lifestyle that matters. Look at the real reasons (which studies like this one do not mention at all) the French likely have less heart disease and…

You forgot a few: - The French smoke like chimneys - Drink some form of alcohol daily - Are dedicated carnivores (vegetarians are rare) I come here a few months a year (south of France) and it always amazes me how healthy everyone appears to be despite the excess of "sin" the French revel in. Lifestyle obviously comes into play in terms of longevity (I believe the world's oldest woman was French and she smoked modera…

Something I completely forgot to mention was stress (I realize this is now 24 hours and no one will probably read this). I have a great aunt who lived to be 104, and her secret to long life was the lack of stress. She drank, smoked, and ate whatever she wanted, but she lived in a hotel almost her entire life (she owned a floor in said hotel), never had kids, and only worked in her younger days. This has nothing to do with the French, but I think is applicable.
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