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Leboncoin is so badly made it's a joke, and they completely monopolize the market. I'm raging just thinking I'm gonna have to use it to look for an apartment and sell my furniture in Bordeaux those next months. Makes me want to build a competition.
Comparing with a similar search on Craigslist in Boston, I'd say that leboncoin is much worse in this respect, and that's saying something.
to sum up the author of the news and recipient of the mail cannot read french correctly. It is a cease and desist letter on the use of a name «lebonXXX.fr» that in all due respect seem is a clear parasitism of a registred brand: it bears a similar name, it is related to the activity of the original site. And le boncoin.fr is registered @ l'INPI (national registration office of brands). In PI law, the infringement is…
You have a point, but even if the author rebranded his website, he would still violate the TOS when providing direct links to listings (and maybe when scraping the website but this is not clearly forbidden in the TOS). The discussion is mostly about this (I think).
The service can disable their accounts (if any exist) and block their IP's; the service can stop doing any business with them if they don't like the ToS; but the service can ask them to comply, but can't really demand that they comply with ToS, it's not a law nor a contract that they've agreed to.
This can be done via firewall ruleset but also via cease and desist letter.
That seems reasonable.
But... for this type of approach to make sense with respect to a website that wants as much traffic as posssible, we have to make certain assumptions.
One assumption is that few if any users will automate their usage.
If hundreds of people began to write their own "apps" to automate how they use this website, then the lawyers would have a more serious problem that they might not be able to solve.
The website operators might have to reconsider their access model.
Could they move to a subscription-only service?
Could they use a whitelist of IP address blocks?
Could they still be competitive if they began to move away from open access?
In my opinion, the practicality of the cease and desist letter approach to website access (anyone can access except if we tell you to stop) is reliant on expected patterns of usage.
When kids learn how to program in school, should that day ever come, then they will learn how to automate. They wil be able to write their own "apps".
Will cease and desist letters and the judicial system be fully automated at that point? (The evolution of the DMCA comes to mind.)
The RIAA and others have tried to sue large groups of users all at once and it did not achieve anything except bad PR. Could website operators bring proceedings against large numbers of users and succeed?
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This is a challenge I would gladly undertake with you if you have a plan. I'm from Bordeaux too btw ;)
That being said I wrote my own scraper & mail notifier for the same site to find an appartment about 1 year ago (it was june too) and it proved very valuable. I was notified on my mobile right when ads went online and was always first to call. I quickly found a nice place, affordable, direct to the owner and without all the paper hurdles. The code was in python and one of my friends may still have it around if you're…
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I'm ashamed to be french when I see this kind of horse shit. The internet is not compatible with their TOS.
Why are all the French so ashamed to be French all the time? I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when a Le Pen won something somewhere. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when an anti piracy group pirates a logo. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when some president felt the need to compensate for something by blowing up a nuclear bomb in the pacific. Somehow, anecdotally, being ashamed to be born s…
Leboncoin is so badly made it's a joke, and they completely monopolize the market. I'm raging just thinking I'm gonna have to use it to look for an apartment and sell my furniture in Bordeaux those next months. Makes me want to build a competition.
Salut confrère Bordelais! The thing is that with 24 M+ listings and a free basic service, no one will ever be able to compete. Maybe alternatives would be possible if limited to a specific area. The weak spot of leboncoin is that you need to pay a stranger before getting your stuff. There is a non negligible portion of scam. If you want a hand...
LeBonCoin spent like 2M€ in adwords the year they started. I've seen them grow like crazy. I really doubt someone can compete head to head with them today. That would need to be very disruptive or very niche.
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Why are all the French so ashamed to be French all the time? I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when a Le Pen won something somewhere. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when an anti piracy group pirates a logo. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when some president felt the need to compensate for something by blowing up a nuclear bomb in the pacific. Somehow, anecdotally, being ashamed to be born s…
Americans are ashamed of being American, Australians are ashamed of being Australian, the French are ashamed of being French. It's a pretty common thing across every culture where people attribute the bad things that happen around them to the geography or culture when in reality, there are crappy drivers all over the world.
they did the same thing to lebitcoin.fr last year http://www.numerama.com/magazine/26352-le-bon-coin-demande-a...
I think there is a lack of a geolocalisation service on the lbc website.
I know that http://www.spothers.com/fr/ is working on it. A umpteenth tentative to beat lbc.