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Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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I was thinking about it until they decided to charge MORE for the developer edition. As there isn't a Windows (Phone or otherwise) version out there I couldn't use it.

Yes, I know, I run a Windows Phone and don't own Android or iOS devices but companies should at least give people the ability without pay walling it.

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #5

1) Seems like a lot of data, what exactly is it communicating and to whom? What are the privacy policies? 2) What happens if/when the company stops running its servers? Does the device continue to work or will it become junk?

Rough numbers may a general guideline to CYA, but to your privacy and second point. What data is gathered, stored, for how long and shared with who? What are your options if the system goes offline?

I have a Nest Thermostat that I bought before Google acquired Nest, which raises another general issue of your device having an evolving T&C to use.

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #16

Strange thing to come from a company from Munich, as AC is barely used there.

Mind you, if you look closely on their website, it works with gas heating - which most of the houses here use. I personally have a Buderus ( although fully automated - but quite inflexible) and I'd really like to try it. 300 Euro doesn't seem to much, considering that it can do savings on the same level per year. EDIT: the central Munich is heated with the SWM's powerplants. But around Munich there is a huge amount o…

Be careful: these are two distinct devices. One works with gas heating, the other with HVACs.

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #21

I was thinking about it until they decided to charge MORE for the developer edition. As there isn't a Windows (Phone or otherwise) version out there I couldn't use it. Yes, I know, I run a Windows Phone and don't own Android or iOS devices but companies should at least give people the ability without pay walling it.

Kinda like the Occulus, which are also charging more for the DevKit. Why do you think it should be cheaper? It's not like they have an app store they want to promote.

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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Unlike Nest, which I've always seen as a gimmick sold on false advertising, I believe this has legs. Making these kinds of air conditioning units into intelligent devices could have significant effects. Why do think I Nest is a gimmick almost bordering on a marketing scam? Because in only works in a relatively narrow range of applications (i.e.: small one or two room apartment). In a larger family home --and particul…

Your argument is mostly right in terms of what would be required (the super-high efficiency filter is not necessary, nor are attic fans, to achieve anything interesting), but actually, you have to have multiple condensing units past a certain point. It's simply not efficient, even with auto-closing dampers, to zone and duct a multi-zone system with single condensing units. You'd be much better off, efficiency wise, e…

Why is a multi-zone system not efficient with a single unit? That's what I have, should I uninstall it or turn it off?

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a single story, three bedroom home. Currently I have a cheap programmable thermostat, and it does next to nothing for me. Some weekends I'm away, some weekends I'm at home. Most days I'm gone between specific times because of work, but sometimes I'll fire up the laptop and work from home. That lack of awareness in my cheap programmable thermostat means any schedule I program into it would be wrong almost as of…

And yours might be a perfect use case for it. Small home, highly irregular schedule. No issues there. My problem is that these things are being sold at my local Home Depot as some kind of magical device. This is a bedroom community of probably 100,000 to 200,000 homes. A huge number of them are two story homes of 2,000 square feet and above with three to five bedrooms. Nest is a waste of time for these people. I actu…

What kind of fan does that? Is it something I can install myself?

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #17

ConEdison in NYC will give you a device like this for free, and pay you $25 after installation if you sign up. http://www.coned.com/energyefficiency/residential_directload...

It looks like a central A/C system is a requirement for this program, so if you use window units, you will not be eligible.

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #27
post #17

ConEdison in NYC will give you a device like this for free, and pay you $25 after installation if you sign up. http://www.coned.com/energyefficiency/residential_directload...

It looks like a central A/C system is a requirement for this program, so if you use window units, you will not be eligible.

Sorry - guess I linked the wrong program. Here's the ThinkEco program. Works on window-based AC units.

https://www.coolnycprogram.com/

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a single story, three bedroom home. Currently I have a cheap programmable thermostat, and it does next to nothing for me. Some weekends I'm away, some weekends I'm at home. Most days I'm gone between specific times because of work, but sometimes I'll fire up the laptop and work from home. That lack of awareness in my cheap programmable thermostat means any schedule I program into it would be wrong almost as of…

And yours might be a perfect use case for it. Small home, highly irregular schedule. No issues there. My problem is that these things are being sold at my local Home Depot as some kind of magical device. This is a bedroom community of probably 100,000 to 200,000 homes. A huge number of them are two story homes of 2,000 square feet and above with three to five bedrooms. Nest is a waste of time for these people. I actu…

> $300 PER MONTH

Wow, and I thought my energy bills were high in California. Where in the world do you live where there's room to save $300/month?

Re: Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

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Unlike Nest, which I've always seen as a gimmick sold on false advertising, I believe this has legs. Making these kinds of air conditioning units into intelligent devices could have significant effects. Why do think I Nest is a gimmick almost bordering on a marketing scam? Because in only works in a relatively narrow range of applications (i.e.: small one or two room apartment). In a larger family home --and particul…

I rent a 2000 sq ft 2-story house. My wife and I have somewhat irregular schedules, and the fact that we rent means I can't make big changes like installing a whole-house fan. But I can change the thermostat.

Nest saved us on average $50-100/month vs the same months last year. I'm sure I could get far more savings with something different like you suggest, but again my options are limited. Nest paid for itself several times over, and I like the app.

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