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U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

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Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#31
Subtext:

"About 46 percent of white children are considered “proficient” in reading, compared with 18 percent of black children and 20 percent of Hispanic kids.

Those gaps remained relatively unchanged over the past 20 years, according to the report."

I.e., it's likely that the change in the average is driven by a change in the proportions of the components, not a shift in the by-component means.

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#32
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I do not see the problem. I have never read books for pleasure. Most of the books I own are technical or reference material that have practical applications. Why would I want to read for pleasure? I did not find anything interesting about The Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, or To Kill a Mockingbird which were standard readings when I went to school. Maybe I do not have the imaginative capacity like those peopl…

Story-telling is important for society. It teaches us how people might react to situations we are not immediately familiar with, and how to empathise with people (characters) who have a different viewpoint than our own. And, it teaches us how to communicate our own stories effectively (as you have done here, in fact). So, I find it strange that you have never enjoyed reading fiction books. It is not necessary to read…

It's true that story-telling is important for society, but I also find this view a bit... utilitarian.

Story-telling and reading are important because they are enriching, pleasurable activities; among the best there are, in fact. That they also make you a better person is a welcome bonus.

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#33
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It's not just kids. About 6 months ago, I started reading "Constellation Games," a really fun and clever sci-fi novel. Yet it now sits on my desk about 2/3 complete. I didn't lose interest or anything -- I simply find it increasingly difficult to set aside time for pleasure reading, for a variety of reasons. Even though I enjoy long form reading, it's now something I have to schedule and force myself to do. I'm not s…

Maybe people simply have less free time these days? I know I find it hard even keeping up with paying bills at times.

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#34
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard assigned readings may not interest you precisely because they're assigned. You're telling me you've never read a novel on your own? Not Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, nothing?

>You're telling me you've never read a novel on your own? I have never read a novel. I was curious whether I could finish one, so I tried to read the first Harry Potter book. I did not continue after the fifth chapter since it felt like work.

Not even Neuromancer? Snow Crash?

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#35
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Story-telling is important for society. It teaches us how people might react to situations we are not immediately familiar with, and how to empathise with people (characters) who have a different viewpoint than our own. And, it teaches us how to communicate our own stories effectively (as you have done here, in fact). So, I find it strange that you have never enjoyed reading fiction books. It is not necessary to read…

It's true that story-telling is important for society, but I also find this view a bit... utilitarian. Story-telling and reading are important because they are enriching, pleasurable activities; among the best there are, in fact. That they also make you a better person is a welcome bonus.

It's really depressing that people are citing studies to justify reading novels.

That's a story for the ages...

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard assigned readings may not interest you precisely because they're assigned. You're telling me you've never read a novel on your own? Not Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, nothing?

>You're telling me you've never read a novel on your own? I have never read a novel. I was curious whether I could finish one, so I tried to read the first Harry Potter book. I did not continue after the fifth chapter since it felt like work.

A lot of people don't really like the first few chapters of the first Harry Potter book when they first read it. It is not uncommon for people to stop reading the first book at a few chapters in. Perhaps you should try something different for your first novel. I like the Chronicles of Narnia series by CS Lewis, his writing is short and to the point, but very descriptive in its own way. That may not be your cup of tea, though. You may want to ask friends or family who know your tastes better what they would recommend. Or just read the next 5 chapters of harry Potter and see if it gets any better for you- I think for most people it does.

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#37
Doesn't the following quote from the article contradict the title's assertion that kids are not reading as well?

"Despite the large percentage of children with below-basic reading skills, reading scores among young children have improved since the 1970s, according to one test that measures reading ability.

The reading scores among 17-year-olds, however, remained relatively unchanged since the 1970s."

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

#39
The New York Times article on this study had a comment suggesting that kids "text" but don't read. I thought it funny that the author thinks that kids only write text messages, but don't ever read them!

Actually, this Reuters article touches on this:

"Rideout cautioned that there may be difference in how people encounter text and the included studies may not take into account stories read online or on social media."

And therein lies the problem with the study. Kids probably do more reading- online, on social media, text messages and in video games.

Granted, the quality of writing encountered is likely substantially lower (certainly a subjective claim), I think kids are probably reading a lot more than this study suggests.

Re: U.S. children read, but not well or often: report

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I do not see the problem. I have never read books for pleasure. Most of the books I own are technical or reference material that have practical applications. Why would I want to read for pleasure? I did not find anything interesting about The Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, or To Kill a Mockingbird which were standard readings when I went to school. Maybe I do not have the imaginative capacity like those peopl…

You should check out this[0] Neil Gaiman article about the importance of reading (Libraries, really, but touches on reading fiction specifically)

[0] - http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/15/neil-gaiman-fut...

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