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Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #194

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Are you talking web or mobile? The web one found Eugene, OR just fine for me...

It finds it ok searching for it, but when you put it as a destination from San Francisco, in the little box, it chokes.

Works fine for me, and it has Eugene as an option after typing only the first few characters.

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Is this where we get to complain about how horrible Google Maps suddenly is? Because wow. I can speak about this. It's terrible. First and foremost, and they have their "reasons" of course, but my Samsung Rant (yeah just a feature phone) always had great maps. Just a simple Java app, built on the maps API. Well that doesn't work anymore. Like, nothing. Google basically says "Get an Android phone, sucker." F U Google.…

Google Maps has forsaken even Android users, so switching to Android is probably not your solution, unless you also downgrade the maps app to the last 6.x release after going Android.

They did a total graphic and UX redesign of the Android app between 6.x and 7.x that made the app pretty horrible to use -- essentially they made it prettier but a LOT less useful as a gps navigation app. You now have to click like 5-7 times to do things that would require 2 or so clicks to accomplish before, which is a huge deal for a GPS app that you just want to dial in and go with, the overhead view is all fucked up now, they also introduced a ton of bugs in the initial 7.x versions -- some of them are now fixed, but it still isn't as rock solid as 6.x was, and they removed a ton of useful features.

bleh, don't get me started on the downfall of Google Maps... whatever change happened over there in their focus as of about 1.5 years ago has been an ongoing travesty, which I think is a huge problem for Android going forward since IMO Google Maps in the 6.x era was the absolute killer app for Android and what kept me not even looking at alternate phones. My next phone may very well be a Windows Phone, which is especially funny since I make a living writing Android apps.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Completely agree. On my workstation (6 cores + 32 GB RAM), Google Maps is unbearably slow using the Chrome browser. I can not even imagine the performance on an average computer. My second biggest pet peeve: In old Maps, clicking on the marker will bring out a popup providing you various choices ( http://imgur.com/qeLhJSd ). In new Maps, clicking on the marker centers it on the screen. What the F? What's the value ad…

Here is the thing ... the clicking on a point on the math and getting info was a great feature. I loved it. I am also sure that there is no way Google simply removed it. But they did. The closest I can find is RIGHT CLICK/WHAT'S HERE.

Clicking a location in the new maps bring up location info under the search bar. At least for me. http://i.imgur.com/j3uchwW.png

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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In the example given it's the word "forest" that is the problem. "Sambisa" would have found it. "Sambisa Reserve" would have found it. "Sambisa Forest Reserve" would have found it. But my guess is that something attempts to understand keywords and context and when you end with "forest" it looks within the set of forests that are called Sambisa, and actually there isn't a forest called Sambisa, there's a nature reserv…

I just tried it, watching the auto-complete. The word "Sambisa" resulted in two choices, both in Nigeria, the second one being the Forest Reserve.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #210

I stopped reading when the screenshot showed AR (Arkansas) and he said it was Arizona (AZ). If you are that geographically challenged, even Google Maps can't save you. EDIT: I forgot that a sense of humor is not an option here. Geez.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289

My point stands that if the guy is so incompetent that he can't figure out which state he's looking at, he shouldn't be writing an article critical of a mapping system in the first place. I'm more of a hardware hacker than a programmer, therefore I don't go around writing articles criticizing the latest version control system; I'd end up making a fool of myself as I wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about.

And just to be clear, I actually agree with him that the new Google Maps seems less useful than the old version.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Yeah I hear ya. Whoever guided this Titanic into the iceberg...well he ain't no Steve Jobs. That's for sure. It's hard to overstate how just plain awful Google Maps is now. It's amazing, in a way. I literally cannot understand how so many smart people can, all together, fail to observe the obvious. Manifestly obviously just shit awful. To observe this one only needs a few seconds with Google Maps. A few minutes cemen…

I've been bitching and moaning about the new g-maps for so long! And this thread makes me feel...vindicated? I guess? Too bad I'm still stuck with it. The funny thing is that it's possible the UI could have been screwed while keeping the search stable, but as the article points out, the search is killing me. It's Apple Maps-ish in a way. I mean, if I'm zoomed in to a particular level and I do a search, there's a good…

As crazy as it sounds, I did some back-and-forth tests to find things nearby and I got the same or more relavent results from Apple Maps. I switched over and the service has gotten a lot better from where they were at launch. Google Maps has gotten significantly worse.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #117
post #78

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Like I said in an earlier comment, age has very little to do with this. "Hipsters" can pretty much be any age. It's more the "hipster" mindset and attitude that's the problem. This attitude involves fashion and trends trumping all other considerations. Maybe that's okay when it comes to something like clothing. It isn't acceptable, however, when it comes to tools that are supposed to be productive, including software…

How about instead of using a crappy word that attempts to tar a nebulous ill-defined group of people, you just point out the issues you have with it. No need for the "hipster" straw-man, as far as I'm concerned, and I agree with your points. "Hipster" is over-done, and from where I'm sitting those who use it pejoratively come across as elitist.

Like I said in the comment you replied to, if you have a better term, please mention it here.

I don't think that these people, or more specifically their attitude and their approach toward software UI design, are "nebulous" nor "ill-defined". It's extremely easy to identify incidents involving them: Windows 8, GNOME 3, Firefox 4 and later, this new version of Google Maps, and the Slashdot beta website, among others.

There are some common traits we see with these cases:

1. They hijack an existing, well-established software product.

2. They throw out years, if not decades, of accumulated knowledge and experience.

3. They usually come in with little to no relevant experience themselves.

4. They consider appearance far more important than usability, efficiency or productivity.

5. They create a design that's obviously flawed in many different ways.

6. They refuse to accept or even acknowledge these many flaws in their designs, no matter how loudly long-time users point them out.

7. They release their changes into the wild, often forcing them upon users who absolutely abhor the changes.

8. Their design efforts drive away more users than they could ever hope to bring in.

The fourth and sixth points are the key ones here. They are the very essence of the "hipster" attitude, regardless of whether we're talking about clothing, food, software UI design, or pretty much anything else they're involved with.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Commercial backing. I know that sounds somewhat daft but I like been a paying customer as it means I can get some support plus the documentation for mapbox is lovely as well.

Do you realize that what Mapbox gives you is Openstreetmap data ?

Yep, I researched the options thoroughly.

I like that mapbox wraps it all up, clearly documents it and provides it at a reasonable cost, to me that is a value added worth paying for is all.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #194

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It finds it ok searching for it, but when you put it as a destination from San Francisco, in the little box, it chokes.

Works fine for me, and it has Eugene as an option after typing only the first few characters.

Here's what I get. Ends up somewhere in the Central Valley:

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=San+Francisco,+CA&daddr=E...

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