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Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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What's happening with Google Maps is reminiscent of IE6: a beautiful product appears, light-years ahead of the competition, and free. The competition in question, being light-years behind, and non-free, promptly dies. Then the beautiful product gets frozen in place, and its team "locked up in a dark dungeon" (Spolsky, 2004), which creates a huge opportunity for (open) alternatives. OpenStreetMap + Leaflet is to Googl…

Frozen in place would have been more useful. Even just talking about the new UI, Google Maps has become a giant pain to work with.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Is this where we get to complain about how horrible Google Maps suddenly is? Because wow. I can speak about this. It's terrible. First and foremost, and they have their "reasons" of course, but my Samsung Rant (yeah just a feature phone) always had great maps. Just a simple Java app, built on the maps API. Well that doesn't work anymore. Like, nothing. Google basically says "Get an Android phone, sucker." F U Google.…

Completely agree. On my workstation (6 cores + 32 GB RAM), Google Maps is unbearably slow using the Chrome browser. I can not even imagine the performance on an average computer.

My second biggest pet peeve: In old Maps, clicking on the marker will bring out a popup providing you various choices (http://imgur.com/qeLhJSd). In new Maps, clicking on the marker centers it on the screen. What the F? What's the value add in bringing the marker to center when I click it?

Just like GMail, Maps has gone from being great software to mediocre. I don't know who is making these horrible design choices at Googleplex.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Is this where we get to complain about how horrible Google Maps suddenly is? Because wow. I can speak about this. It's terrible. First and foremost, and they have their "reasons" of course, but my Samsung Rant (yeah just a feature phone) always had great maps. Just a simple Java app, built on the maps API. Well that doesn't work anymore. Like, nothing. Google basically says "Get an Android phone, sucker." F U Google.…

They fixed something that wasn't broken. Classic screw-up.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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The worst about that Sambisa Forest thing is that the autocompletion finds it ( http://imgur.com/kWgcByo ) and then when you press enter, you get a not found error ( http://imgur.com/GyhVSaO ) !

Exactly. I don't know what they have changed but earlier, typing partial address (pressing enter) based on what you saw on auto complete used to work. In new version, you MUST use arrow key and select the auto complete item for it to work.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Glad I'm not the only one suffering. I've got 2 problems with this new fullscreen Google Maps - 1) Noticeably slower 2) Drilling down to each step in public transit directions is now very awkward - it used to be very elegant. At this point Bing Maps is competitive.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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Is this where we get to complain about how horrible Google Maps suddenly is? Because wow. I can speak about this. It's terrible. First and foremost, and they have their "reasons" of course, but my Samsung Rant (yeah just a feature phone) always had great maps. Just a simple Java app, built on the maps API. Well that doesn't work anymore. Like, nothing. Google basically says "Get an Android phone, sucker." F U Google.…

What you're saying is absolutely correct. I actually had to use Bing Maps today to look up some directions because the new version of Google Maps was pretty much unusable.

As for why UX disasters like this can happen, I think it generally comes down to one thing these days: "hipsters".

Those of us who've been in industry for a long time have no doubt seen this happen before. A relatively well-established product has a usable UI. It isn't perfect, and maybe even looks "dated" in some ways, but it generally works and is understood by its existing users.

So-called "hipsters" (that is, people who have an uncompromising view that they're talented "designers" or "UI experts", with a massive ego to back this up, and a fixation on being "trendy") get involved at some point. These people are often relatively young, often have limited experience, and are usually more focused on making designs look "pretty" and "modern" rather than usable.

Needing to create work for themselves, these hipsters, coupled with managers who need to appear to be leading something seen as "productive", start on a UI redesign. Often this is done without the involvement or insight offered by the existing developers of the product, nor any of the product's users. Changes are made purely to look "better", with limited to no consideration of how it'll impact the usability of the product.

The end result is a total cock-up like this, or like the poor UI of Chrome (and the imitations of it by Firefox, Opera and IE), or a project-killing release like GNOME 3, or an abysmal failure like Windows 8.

UIs were generally far more usable in the 1980s, 1990s, and the first half of the 2000s, before "hipsters" got involved with design. What we see today is a total jumble of inconsistent and incoherent UI design, where usability and efficiency are considered significantly less important than "looking trendy".

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #15

In the example given it's the word "forest" that is the problem. "Sambisa" would have found it. "Sambisa Reserve" would have found it. "Sambisa Forest Reserve" would have found it. But my guess is that something attempts to understand keywords and context and when you end with "forest" it looks within the set of forests that are called Sambisa, and actually there isn't a forest called Sambisa, there's a nature reserv…

Ironically, Apple Maps finds it.

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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My pet peeve as a Londoner; the disappearance of the transit layer when searching for a place. If you've not searched for anything, New-oogle Maps will happily show you the card that lets you activate the transit layer and superimpose the spiderweb of tube lines on to the London map. However, the second a marker gets dropped, good luck seeing that layer ever again.

I mean, even if you clickity clack through the directions>origin>transit, Google will mark up its suggested routes while still refusing to superimpose the tube lines. It's maddening! For all the sophisticated route-mapping that I'm sure Google is bringing to bear on the problem, I'd much rather just look at a map that simultaneously shows a search result marker and the tube network at the same time and figure out my own route. And heaven forbid that I might want to see a collection of results for DIY shops and figure out which one I can get to quickest with reference to the underground network -- it seems that Google would have me route-map each of them in turn, write down the results and then decide. It's so deeply counter-intuitive that I struggle to think of any possible rationalisation for the decision.

I don't suppose anyone has a bookmarklet that toggles the transit layer?

Re: Google Maps Has Forsaken Us

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post #25

You can still switch back to Classic Maps via the question-mark icon in the bottom right. Classic for life.

I'm always very hesitant to rely on fallbacks like that. They tend to go unmaintained, at best, but usually just get removed after some period of time.

There's the slight possibility that it might be different in this case, given that Google has many resources at its disposal. But in other cases, such a fallback is merely an attempt to temporarily mitigate legitimate complains about a now-inferior experience, without doing any actual work.

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