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Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by nokcha »

hartator wrote: post #102

Am I the only one who think that childish? You aren't even sure that will target the right people and not some kind of public worker who just doing some job!

>You aren't even sure that will target the right people

Indeed. The FCC tried to promulgate a rule requiring net neutrality, but a Federal Court of Appeals ruled that the FCC lacked statutory authority to do so [1]. So the FCC is powerless unless and until Congress revises the Telecommunications Act of 1996 or otherwise grants the necessary legal authority to the FCC.

[1] http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/3AF8B4D93...

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by ForHackernews »

ksolanki wrote: post #112

This doesn't seem very productive. As Gandhi once said, "Hate the sin not the sinner". This is not even punishing the sinner, who are not your everyday public workers but likely some lobbying corp.

Edit: Nevermind, I guess he did say it--although he's not the originator of the quote.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by Iftheshoefits »

IanDrake wrote: post #36
minikites wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed and also this should be true for the pay of elected officials and corporate executives.

>and corporate executives Sure why not, all they did is take money from willing people called customers. While we're at it let's add... Basketball, baseball, football, hockey, and soccer players, golfers, Hollywood stars, and successful book authors like Steven King. These people are so greedy because they make millions a year! All while their viewers/readers/hot dog venders/editors make so much less. It's not fair.…

The people who do/did the actual work to get those customers aren't the corporate executives, though: they're the engineers, janitors, sales team, etc. The executives in corporations are generally there because they have connections and/or a generational history of networking to serve as a very high ground from which to "bootstrap" or raise themselves. Not all; in fact some very wealthy owners and executives came from humble, next-to-nothing backgrounds (e.g. Whatsapp); but most--enough to make the generalization not fallacious.

There's absolutely no empirically or rationally supportable argument that executives in general ought to earn even 50 times the lowest-paid employee's wage, much less the 100s of times they currently are. This isn't to say there are no arguments for such a condition, or that there are no specific cases where empirically or rationally supportable arguments exist.

Whether and how others might complain about sports or celebrity personalities is entirely irrelevant to that issue.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by justizin »

the irony of using network management techniques to protest the lack of a law which could outlaw this very type of network management is pretty thick.

pure net neutrality could make it illegal to have software which treats any ip addresses differently.

there are some real issues to think through, but most of what's happening right now is emotionally driven banality.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by ksolanki »

ForHackernews wrote: post #113
ksolanki wrote: post #112

This doesn't seem very productive. As Gandhi once said, "Hate the sin not the sinner". This is not even punishing the sinner, who are not your everyday public workers but likely some lobbying corp.

Edit: Nevermind, I guess he did say it--although he's not the originator of the quote.

Pretty sure Gandhi said that (I have read his biography 3 times!), but should point out that this is nothing much to do with Hinduism.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by russell_h »

kumbasha wrote: post #82
IanDrake wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and corporate executives Sure why not, all they did is take money from willing people called customers. While we're at it let's add... Basketball, baseball, football, hockey, and soccer players, golfers, Hollywood stars, and successful book authors like Steven King. These people are so greedy because they make millions a year! All while their viewers/readers/hot dog venders/editors make so much less. It's not fair.…

Lots of executives around the world make huge profits for their companies and employees, without collecting multimillion dollar salaries for themselves. Since being a millionaire is empirically not required for CEOs, their multimillion dollar salaries could be better used elsewhere.

If you see a company paying their executive too much, why not either:

    a) Offer to do their job for less.
    b) Start a competing company? With your lower costs you should have no trouble crushing them in the market.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by talmand »

rosser wrote: post #109
sosborn wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty big claim. Any data to back it up?

You were aware that sitting politicians in the US are exempt from the laws against insider trading, weren't you?

I believe that's only for Congress. Your local Mayor can go to prison for insider trading just like you and me.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by talmand »

talmand wrote: post #81
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you're not being snide; how do they get rich then (whilst in post)?

Not being snide, it's a well-known phenomenon. Look at Harry Reid as an easy example.

Oh, don't believe me?

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/314025/how-did-harry-...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/04/24/harry_r...

http://nevadanewsandviews.com/archives/2975

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/15/harry-reid-...

Take your pick.

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