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All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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online payments ---- google wallet cloud services ---- google cloud platform mobile apps ---- google play mobile OS ---- android maps and nav ---- google maps physical retail ---- ? no google product shopping deals ---- google offers cloud storage ---- google drive instant messaging ---- google hangouts car service ---- uber (via google ventures) c2c ecommerce ---- ? no google product travel booking ---- google fligh…

Google just integrated Uber ;)

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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online payments ---- google wallet cloud services ---- google cloud platform mobile apps ---- google play mobile OS ---- android maps and nav ---- google maps physical retail ---- ? no google product shopping deals ---- google offers cloud storage ---- google drive instant messaging ---- google hangouts car service ---- uber (via google ventures) c2c ecommerce ---- ? no google product travel booking ---- google fligh…

You can also include the best buy google kiosks as physical retail.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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I love this article. Despite the multitudes of news sources telling us about how commerce is now global and business is no longer tied to a place and the internet is changing the world, there is still an ocean of enterprises of which we US-based-or-english-speaking technologists are ignorant. Take a moment to think about this: Alibaba is a huge company, growing in an absolutely enormous market, providing a pile of se…

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Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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online payments ---- google wallet cloud services ---- google cloud platform mobile apps ---- google play mobile OS ---- android maps and nav ---- google maps physical retail ---- ? no google product shopping deals ---- google offers cloud storage ---- google drive instant messaging ---- google hangouts car service ---- uber (via google ventures) c2c ecommerce ---- ? no google product travel booking ---- google fligh…

Amazon also comes very close to checking all the boxes.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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I think many large tech companies have me-too platforms in a wide range of services -- just because Alibaba has a fork of Android does not make it comparable to Android. A better comparison would be yielded if the userbase/usage of these services were included.

This is not to say that Alibaba is not an incredible company, just that this is an incomplete comparison.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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post #5

I love this article. Despite the multitudes of news sources telling us about how commerce is now global and business is no longer tied to a place and the internet is changing the world, there is still an ocean of enterprises of which we US-based-or-english-speaking technologists are ignorant. Take a moment to think about this: Alibaba is a huge company, growing in an absolutely enormous market, providing a pile of se…

I'd suggest that the problem is that trying to serve a market 10,000 miles away simply doesn't work. Had the same people who started Alibaba stayed where they were but tried to build a US-centric company instead, I'm sure that we would not be talking about them now. You need to bootstrap from what you know.

In fact, there's no guarantee this US expansion is going to work either.

I'd also observe that people would often interpret a Silicon Valley company trying to build a solution for some other culture as arrogant, parochial, or both, so there's really no winning here.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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Pity its not Alibaba that is for sale in the "IPO" then, just a Cayman Islands company which holds a "profit participation" right which may or may not be legal in China. The article also points out that much of Alibaba is not actually owned by the company but by Jack Ma personally, so no participation in that.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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post #5

I love this article. Despite the multitudes of news sources telling us about how commerce is now global and business is no longer tied to a place and the internet is changing the world, there is still an ocean of enterprises of which we US-based-or-english-speaking technologists are ignorant. Take a moment to think about this: Alibaba is a huge company, growing in an absolutely enormous market, providing a pile of se…

I wasn't born in the United States but my experience has been that Americans - in particular our colleagues involved in the sciences/technology are not only aware of what's going on, but interested in what's going on globally. I find it ironic that you're criticizing Western technologists on an US-based, tech centric website, where this post and your comment were up-voted to the top. If anything, this hints that your comment may be incorrect. In my experience, American technologists are one of the most diverse fields (both in and out of academia) I've ever been a part of.

I disagree with your characterization of the way US-based 'technologists' view the world. In my experience, almost every single technologist I've come into contact with is much much more well versed in what's going on globally.

Also, I have to take issue with your exaggeration here. You're making a generalization. I know about Alibaba, of course. Most people I know also know about Alibaba. So don't say we "know nothing about it." This article was posted and voted to the top of the list on an English based website where the majority of the visitors are working in Western countries.

Your comment seems to make some assumptions that I don't understand. When you say "Who will serve them? These are people just like us, they have needs and desires much like ours." Who is saying anything different? You seem angry with a group of people but it's generally not technologists that have the viewpoint you're addressing.

As someone who wasn't born in this country and has found nothing but respect and openness from my technical colleagues, I have to say I'm pretty confused as to what you're referring to. It's certainly not the majority of North American/European technologists I've talked to.

Re: All the Western companies you’d have to combine to get something like Alibaba

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Pity its not Alibaba that is for sale in the "IPO" then, just a Cayman Islands company which holds a "profit participation" right which may or may not be legal in China. The article also points out that much of Alibaba is not actually owned by the company but by Jack Ma personally, so no participation in that.

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