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Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

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Post by jacquesm »

davidw wrote: post #30
affiliator wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm not begrudging, it should be noted that DX links ending with ~r. and a number are affiliated to a particular user's account.

> Selling products? If they're interesting products, I think that's cool. We're capitalists here:-) No spam, though, of course. Affiliate links? Why not, if it's an interesting product? I don't begrudge one of us making a bit of cash for showing us something cool. On the other hand, if someone's spamming, throw the book at them! It's pretty clear that 'frisco' is a user who participates in this site and is not a spam…

Because once you start to allow affiliate spam you might as well open the floodgates. Do you have any idea how fragile the submit page is vs the number of would be spammers that you'd have to defend against if you let it through ?

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

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Post by nfriedly »

TriinT wrote: post #2

This is more badass: http://www.amazon.com/Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=cm_cr_pr...

I laughed at some of the "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought" items:

* Forbidden LEGO: Build the Models Your Parents Warned You Against!

* Hasbro Nerf N-Strike Firefly REV-8

* Balls of Fury (Widescreen Edition)

* Dremel 3956-02 MultiPro Super 1.15 Amp 5,000 to 35,000 RPM Variable Speed Rotary Tool with 77 Accessories

* Art of Computer Programming, Volume 4, Fascicle 4,The: Generating All Trees--History of Combinatorial Generation

* (a bunch more programing books)

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

#43

Post by davidw »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
davidw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Selling products? If they're interesting products, I think that's cool. We're capitalists here:-) No spam, though, of course. Affiliate links? Why not, if it's an interesting product? I don't begrudge one of us making a bit of cash for showing us something cool. On the other hand, if someone's spamming, throw the book at them! It's pretty clear that 'frisco' is a user who participates in this site and is not a spam…

Because once you start to allow affiliate spam you might as well open the floodgates. Do you have any idea how fragile the submit page is vs the number of would be spammers that you'd have to defend against if you let it through ?

I think it's one of those things were it's not that hard to figure out. If you or I post a link to something with a link in it, it's likely to be as part of something else. I occasionally post a book link, for instance, but it's not something I do often or regularly for the sake of making money. Real spammers are unlikely to really participate in the community enough to not be completely obvious spammers. One glance at frisco's page, for instance, tells you that he's not.

I just don't really see the problem.

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

#44

Post by jacquesm »

davidw wrote: post #43
jacquesm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because once you start to allow affiliate spam you might as well open the floodgates. Do you have any idea how fragile the submit page is vs the number of would be spammers that you'd have to defend against if you let it through ?

I think it's one of those things were it's not that hard to figure out. If you or I post a link to something with a link in it, it's likely to be as part of something else. I occasionally post a book link, for instance, but it's not something I do often or regularly for the sake of making money. Real spammers are unlikely to really participate in the community enough to not be completely obvious spammers. One glance…

Ok, what's your call on these then:

http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ravindra1982

http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=insomniamedia

From a low wage country it doesn't take much to get someone to spend a few minutes / day to 'participate', and then to drop the 'payload'.

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

#46

Post by davidw »

jacquesm wrote: post #44
davidw wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's one of those things were it's not that hard to figure out. If you or I post a link to something with a link in it, it's likely to be as part of something else. I occasionally post a book link, for instance, but it's not something I do often or regularly for the sake of making money. Real spammers are unlikely to really participate in the community enough to not be completely obvious spammers. One glance…

Ok, what's your call on these then: http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ravindra1982 http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=insomniamedia From a low wage country it doesn't take much to get someone to spend a few minutes / day to 'participate', and then to drop the 'payload'.

First one is a gray area, second one is a spammer. This is why we have human moderators and the flag button.

Anyway, it's sort of a moot point, as it's not really possible to automate elimination of those sorts of links.

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

#47

Post by antonovka »

DanielStraight wrote: post #17
ckinnan wrote: post #15

These are apparently illegal to use in the U.S. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html

And for good reason. Who wants to have their cell phone rendered useless just because they happen to be standing too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them.

While I don't disagree, I find the opposite idea amusing. Who wants to have their consciousness and conversations disrupted by a loud cell phone user who decided they're more important than everyone else around them?

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

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Post by wmeredith »

sho wrote: post #18
DanielStraight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for good reason. Who wants to have their cell phone rendered useless just because they happen to be standing too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them.

Similarly, it's a good thing dangerous chemical kits are outlawed in the US. Who wants to have their house burned down just because they happen to be living too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them? update: Hey, why am I being voted down? Not trying to be a douchebag here. I really do view EM freedom as strongly correlated with normal-speech freedom. "Pirate" radio statio…

Your rights end where mine begin. As a libertarian I believe that you should be able to do almost anything to yourself. Start monkeying other people's property/body/space and I'm against it.

Re: Personal Cell Phone Jammer, $27.41

#49

Post by DanielStraight »

antonovka wrote: post #47
DanielStraight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for good reason. Who wants to have their cell phone rendered useless just because they happen to be standing too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them.

While I don't disagree, I find the opposite idea amusing. Who wants to have their consciousness and conversations disrupted by a loud cell phone user who decided they're more important than everyone else around them?

No one. The rule generalizes to "Don't be an ass with regard to cell phones." It's really that simple.
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