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John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

#21

Free software is a prerequisite for software to be "anti-surveillance" and I see no indication that Chadder is free software.

Libre is a prerequisite, gratis isn't. This is an important distinction to make. While it is true that this software seems to be neither, it is important to note when we try to convince them to release it free, we mean libre and not necessarily gratis. (Although the two often go hand in hand.)

When people hear us complaining about it, they often think we want to avoid paying money for it. This is false, and a bad impression to give. That is the purpose behind making this distinction.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

#22

McAfee ceased to be a brand that you'd want to be associated with a while ago, I wonder what they intend to achieve by attaching their reputation to his. Toxic doesn't even begin to describe it, he's the IT world equivalent of a rogue.

The Alex Jones crowd always seem to have spare cash.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

#25
Isn't McAfee back in the US? You can't trust crypto tools that are closed source form the US. The current state of laws make that impossible. [1] [2]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #3

Even if it's not directly relevant to the product in question but I always think it's a bit weird to promote a "secure" product and don't even have SSL enabled on your own website. It's not like it's expensive to get a simple certificate these days.

It doesn't ask you for any information. What would be the benefit of enabling SSL?

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

#28

Anyone care to explain how this is supposed to work? If Chadder don't store or transmit the key, how does the person I'm sending a message to have it? The ambiguity in the way the video explained it makes me a bit suspicious.

I do not know what your objections are. It's pretty straight forward.

I guess it's something like:

For messages: AES

Key exchange: RSA

Alice and Bob both generates their own RSA keypair (the server do not have their private keys). Alice generates the AES key to be used with Bob, encrypts it using Bobs public RSA key and then sends it to him.. done

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #17
post #12

So the client is open source but the server and backend isn't, same as Telegram? What is the point? That and McAfee doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Where do you see the client sources?

See here: https://telegram.org/apps#source-code

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #21

Free software is a prerequisite for software to be "anti-surveillance" and I see no indication that Chadder is free software.

Libre is a prerequisite, gratis isn't. This is an important distinction to make. While it is true that this software seems to be neither, it is important to note when we try to convince them to release it free, we mean libre and not necessarily gratis . (Although the two often go hand in hand.) When people hear us complaining about it, they often think we want to avoid paying money for it. This is false, and a bad im…

I'm pretty sure he meant free as in freedom. Even the FSF uses the term "free software".
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