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Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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It's getting more and more common these days that whenever I talk to people about travel, the US is completely off their list. The TSA, NSA, NYPD, Bloods and Crips, the reasons go on.

It used to be that Disney Land was one of the reasons to go to America. More and more people I speak to who would have gone now say "meh" to the idea.

Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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In many (most?) countries you can get a secondary passport that you can use with "unfriendly countries". You use that for one set of countries, and you use the primary one for USA and other countries that have poor relations with countries from the first set.

And some countries just stopped stamping passports, you'll just get a piece of paper you'll have to keep until you are leaving the country (Israel).

Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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In many (most?) countries you can get a secondary passport that you can use with "unfriendly countries". You use that for one set of countries, and you use the primary one for USA and other countries that have poor relations with countries from the first set.

I had three concurrently valid passports at one time, partially because getting multiple entry visas sometimes requires having [a] passport couriered to the country in question and I didn't want to be unable to travel while my passport was in Abuja.

Using that to lie to consular authorities is really stupid though. I've travelled to Yemen and to other countries that are 'suspicious' and never had any problems, if I'd lied about it I would almost certainly have been picked up on it (come on, you don't think the US government has a database of people who've travelled to Yemen or Pakistan on most major airlines?) and would have had some very difficult questions to answer.

Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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Stamps on a passport is actually a pretty good example on what one would like to hide from the authorities even though he didn't do anything wrong. I say that as an answer to people like Eric Schmidt who say that if we have something to hide, we shouldn't have done it in the first place. Well, that would be true in a perfect world, but here we have a perfect example that it's not the case. So for this case, I would also advise having multiple passports.

Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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It's getting more and more common these days that whenever I talk to people about travel, the US is completely off their list. The TSA, NSA, NYPD, Bloods and Crips, the reasons go on. It used to be that Disney Land was one of the reasons to go to America. More and more people I speak to who would have gone now say "meh" to the idea.

A friend of mine said he would never visit Saudi Arabia because he could get jailed or killed for no reason or no fair trial. I told him thats my reason for not visiting USA, Bradley Manning among a list of many and Guantanamo.

Re: Countries you shouldn't visit if you want to travel to the US

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Stamps on a passport is actually a pretty good example on what one would like to hide from the authorities even though he didn't do anything wrong. I say that as an answer to people like Eric Schmidt who say that if we have something to hide, we shouldn't have done it in the first place. Well, that would be true in a perfect world, but here we have a perfect example that it's not the case. So for this case, I would a…

Yeah, I know people who have "lost" their passport in between trips to Israel and to Arab countries. I guess it's worth the replacement fee to avoid potential problems.
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