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Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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Just out of curiosity, what do you folks see as the difference between looking at text with the intent to correct spelling (like this text box does) versus looking at text to put an advertisement next to it? (If I wanted to go reductio ad absurdum, what about looking at text to change foo into a link?) To be clear: I'm honestly curious, not trying to defend or advocate for one interpretation over another.

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Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#112
He made Patrick read way too much. I wouldn't work for Google because I consider it to be an extremely dangerous and immoral company. It's not the only one but it's up there at the top with the likes of Facebook and to some extent Microsoft, Oracle, Apple.

One could go on forever on this but an email to them is probably not the right place to do this (although he did publish it).

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#113

Are you even serious? I read your post. Its a nice fairytale. Let me explain to you what my dad has tought me: We live under structured societies and under a specific set of rules we call LAW. (I most certainly disagree with that... but thats life and how it is) Yes under my fantasy world everyone would have the same possibilities and everyone would be happy yada yada. But under the Actual world we are living at ...…

I'm not sure he's naïve enough to think that his not working at Google will change Google. Nor that if Google didn't do it others wouldn't either. He's saying that given their attributes, he chooses not to work there. I doubt he'd work for Microsoft either, for much of the same reasons.

This is no different to my own choice of not working for Oracle (or Google for that matter). I did work for Microsoft though, and have no regrets about that one. In fact it was one of my best experiences. Either way I know it changes nothing, beyond possibly being able to influence people close to me - but I like myself more for it.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#114
There are typical kinds of people. He seems to be very idealistic. And it's awesome and free advertisement for him as a person/hacker, where he (and his github projects) now can profit. He is in high dept towards google now :)

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#116
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the product was the ad space, Google would be out of business. The product is the personal data Google packages up and sells to advertisers.

> The product is the personal data Google packages up and sells to advertisers. What shit, show me how I can buy some. Show me some that someone has bought.

It's a rental.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#117

There are more reasons to not work for Google, including their (sometimes?) rather poor interview process.

That comes as a surprise to me. Poor interview process? They have the world's best engineers at their disposal, don't they? A poor interview process would point otherwise.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#118
post #30

The primary reason I won't work for Google is because I'm nowhere near smart enough. But I like to tell myself that the ethical shortcuts they've taken in pursuit of the almighty dollar are a good secondary reason. It's just that I don't need a secondary reason, so yay, consequence-free ethics!

I agree with you. I feel the same. At the same time I wonder if I suffer from the Impostor Syndrome. It's difficult to tell.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#119
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The primary reason I won't work for Google is because I'm nowhere near smart enough I think plenty of people tend to vastly overestimate Google's (or Facebook's, ...) hiring bar. I know quite a few people who would be happy to work there and (I believe) can easily beat the hiring process, but they self-eliminate themselves from the game, so I definitely recommend to folks not to make a prejudice about whether they…

Honestly, I used to think the same way. I am a college dropout that has about 3 years professional experience (thoigh I have been programming since I was a kid) and I suddenly have a Google recruiter coming after me and trying to get me to interview. I have worked with a guy who now works at Google and some people who interviewed at one time or another. They say the same thing as the parent post; Google hires good pr…

Did you actually interview with them? I have Computer Science education, 10+ years of industry experience, am very familiar with most of the Cormen book and have been programming since I was a kid. I was interviewing with Google twice (after their recruiters reached out to me) and haven't made the bar.

Don't think that the fact of recruiter getting in touch mean anything -- they are playing their own numbers game.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#120

Perhaps a few people don't understand why OP takes this so seriously. This is the 'long game', the game for the betterment of human existence. (Cliche? yes, true enough? - probably) If you still feel these huge corporations have our best interests at heart, you are being a touch naive. They are not 'evil' ofc, but they're probably not the best idea for the future.

What is your best idea for the future? Do you think I or anyone else would find it palatable? Here's the thing: the profit motive is the impulse of corporations, not the sum total of all behavior. There are great people in corporations that do amazing shit within corporate structures. Coca-Cola have done incredible social art installations recently - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts_4vOUDImE Google is a huge corpora…

About Coca Cola, there is this very good talk by Melinda Gates about what they do in the developping world: http://www.ted.com/talks/melinda_french_gates_what_nonprofit...

I think enabling enterprising people to do business may be the most positive thing Coca Cola does to the world.

For Google, it seems making money is not the end game. What they do have many positive fallouts, but I'm not sure they move the 'real' world forward as much as Microsoft (while openly evil, they brought a unified computing environment to the world) or Apple or even Amazon.

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