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Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:b-3Zibp...

How ironic that one would be using Google's cached version to read this

Not at all. Google's caches are pretty commonly used to view pages with high levels of traffic.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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post #6

The response doesn't seem convincing. By this standards he's not supposed to work for any corporation. I am a Google fanboy, I agree, and this might skew my opinion, but I am always open to debate.

He could work for a corp that is small enough that it still seems like it is made of decent human beings.

My interview experience with G was more than enough to ensure I never seek to work there again.

And, the trauma of having all my media accounts force-Hoovered into G+ left me little choice but to revoke the last little bit of admiration I had for this once-cool-as-beans company.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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post #6

The response doesn't seem convincing. By this standards he's not supposed to work for any corporation. I am a Google fanboy, I agree, and this might skew my opinion, but I am always open to debate.

Agreed. The response seems to conflate a bunch of different things and pretend it's all Google's fault. Snowden didn't blow the whistle on Google. Google can't control what the NSA is tapping or what court orders it gets. Maybe some people inside Google knew about inter-datacenter taps and didn't do anything about it, but once all of Google became aware, they started encrypting those links. Automatic indexing of email contents leaves Google open to subpoenas for information about that indexed content, but the emails would be there to subpoena either way. I don't understand the problem.

What has Google ever done to help TLAs wiretap anyone?

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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Pretty well-written sentiment, only thing is that recruiters cast a pretty wide net and certainly wouldn't read through anyone's life story if presented with the opportunity.

However, I'm sure that if every person who gets contacted by a Google recruiter responds with a similar diatribe about their disillusionment with Google's ways, they just might take notice.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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post #6

The response doesn't seem convincing. By this standards he's not supposed to work for any corporation. I am a Google fanboy, I agree, and this might skew my opinion, but I am always open to debate.

People tend to forget we are Google's product. Not their customers. Advertisers are their customers.

Plenty of tech companies don't sell souls for a living, therefore by working there you may not be required to also sacrifice yours for a paycheck.

Flip side; there are those who believe ads aren't evil. Google builds a lot of interesting tech. It's probably a great place for engineers. But one look at their financial reporting and it's still evident that advertising pays the bills.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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I'm still waiting on proof from Snowden as to Apple/Google/Facebook's direct, illegal cooperation with the NSA. So far, all I've seen proof of is compliance with warrants(which admittedly are questionable, but Google has a direct financial gain in fighting them, not helping them), claims that they've fought them, and evidence that the NSA is both tapping the trunk as well as decrypting SSL'd communications.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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> We witnessed Google sending cease and desist letters to the developers and maintainers of the popular Android CyanogenMod for violating some patents by modifying open source elements of an open source licensed project

Taking into account that this is not what happened between Google and Cyanogen I doubt about the knowledge of him

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