Wait, why should the default public position be “This is unacceptable and unwelcome here.”? As long as (i) this site is accessed in privacy, without bothering other people's sensibilities and (ii) the models are willing and well-paid (which, as the article itself states, seems to be the case), what is the problem? It's clearly one dumb-witted idea, but that doesn't make it automatically unacceptable. If, in a porn mo…
Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
11–19 of 19 posts
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#12Wait, why should the default public position be “This is unacceptable and unwelcome here.”? As long as (i) this site is accessed in privacy, without bothering other people's sensibilities and (ii) the models are willing and well-paid (which, as the article itself states, seems to be the case), what is the problem? It's clearly one dumb-witted idea, but that doesn't make it automatically unacceptable. If, in a porn mo…
Its a good question. Imagine if the situation were slightly different. Imagine if, like porn, this site became mainstream. Then, if a girl would want to learn about CS this would be the place to go. Consequently, she would be subject to all of the objectification of women that this site puts forth. That is definitely a bad thing. If there were a competitor which didnt have that aspect and people were split: men would…
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#13Wait, why should the default public position be “This is unacceptable and unwelcome here.”? As long as (i) this site is accessed in privacy, without bothering other people's sensibilities and (ii) the models are willing and well-paid (which, as the article itself states, seems to be the case), what is the problem? It's clearly one dumb-witted idea, but that doesn't make it automatically unacceptable. If, in a porn mo…
Its a good question. Imagine if the situation were slightly different. Imagine if, like porn, this site became mainstream. Then, if a girl would want to learn about CS this would be the place to go. Consequently, she would be subject to all of the objectification of women that this site puts forth. That is definitely a bad thing. If there were a competitor which didnt have that aspect and people were split: men would…
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#14Whole article is a feminist rant. Moving on.
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#15Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#16Wait, why should the default public position be “This is unacceptable and unwelcome here.”? As long as (i) this site is accessed in privacy, without bothering other people's sensibilities and (ii) the models are willing and well-paid (which, as the article itself states, seems to be the case), what is the problem? It's clearly one dumb-witted idea, but that doesn't make it automatically unacceptable. If, in a porn mo…
Because the programming world is overwhelming male dominate and is widely perceived as harboring an undercurrent of latent sexism and is generally seen as being dismissive, condescending and unwelcoming to women.
Taken against that background, a site like this does nothing to dispel these notions or help attract women into our field.
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#17[deleted]
When we're trying to promote equality in a male dominated field, the objectification of women does more harm than the objectification of men in that context. I'm not suggesting we go out and objectify men, but trying to point out that the effects of this objectification of women has the ability to cause far more harm than an equivalent site objectifying men.
A site objectifying men would do very little to change the status-quo, codechicks has the very real potential to (when put in context with the daily shit throw at girls and women in this field) to make someone think twice about getting into it.
Whilst discussion of male issues are important, the "but what about the men" argument that comes up almost universally in topics like this is so tiring. Can we not just be able to discuss issues of gender equality & the exploitation and objectification of women without constantly having to inject our gender (yes I'm a dude) into the piece? It de-rails the conversation about women's issues, re-focuses it on the men, and silences those who may wish to speak out against the objectification of women.
Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#18Re: Codebabes.com : Real or Troll
#19Wait, why should the default public position be “This is unacceptable and unwelcome here.”? As long as (i) this site is accessed in privacy, without bothering other people's sensibilities and (ii) the models are willing and well-paid (which, as the article itself states, seems to be the case), what is the problem? It's clearly one dumb-witted idea, but that doesn't make it automatically unacceptable. If, in a porn mo…
Because context. Because the programming world is overwhelming male dominate and is widely perceived as harboring an undercurrent of latent sexism and is generally seen as being dismissive, condescending and unwelcoming to women. Taken against that background, a site like this does nothing to dispel these notions or help attract women into our field.