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Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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Why do you people up vote this stuff? This place is turning into planet of the obvious... do you really need to read a page of it's not easy? pfff junk

It's not obvious at all how extremely hard it can be to have a successful startup. It's "harder than hard." It's something you can't really appreciate until you've tried. Have you?

Agree. We all know it's hard. But not until we actually try it that we get a real sense of "how hard".

Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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Why do you people up vote this stuff? This place is turning into planet of the obvious... do you really need to read a page of it's not easy? pfff junk

The article's fault is not that the message itself is overtly obvious, it's that it neglects the more important question of: Why there will always be a large number of entrepreneurs in spite of the low success rates of starting a business and the enormous amount of work, dedication, and "luck" required to be immensely successful. But that would be opening up an economic/philosophical can of worms that is neither here…

> Why there will always be a large number of entrepreneurs in spite of the low success rates

Visit Las Vegas or lotto ticket booth and chat to people... it will clear up a lot of things.

Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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I am going to be a complete fool and say the opposite. Starting up is easier than everyone says.

Reasons? The cost is really low. You don't have to quit your job. You don't have to invest a lot into your company. If things start to do well, you can afford to do both. What really is the cost? The cost is your time, and if it is something you enjoy, its a win-win situation. Am I defining a hobby? Sure, but starting up can be exactly that. There are advantages to quitting your job and investing every penny you can, but that isn't for everyone.

So starting up is really easy. Write some code, release a project. If it doesn't do well, it was fun. If it does do well, keep the ball rolling.

If you can't get anything started while you are working full time, I would suggest you will be unsuccessful if you quit your job too.

Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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I am going to be a complete fool and say the opposite. Starting up is easier than everyone says. Reasons? The cost is really low. You don't have to quit your job. You don't have to invest a lot into your company. If things start to do well, you can afford to do both. What really is the cost? The cost is your time, and if it is something you enjoy, its a win-win situation. Am I defining a hobby? Sure, but starting up…

You left out the sentence that starts with "I learned on my own startup..." Why?

Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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I am going to be a complete fool and say the opposite. Starting up is easier than everyone says. Reasons? The cost is really low. You don't have to quit your job. You don't have to invest a lot into your company. If things start to do well, you can afford to do both. What really is the cost? The cost is your time, and if it is something you enjoy, its a win-win situation. Am I defining a hobby? Sure, but starting up…

You left out the sentence that starts with "I learned on my own startup..." Why?

Can you rephrase that?

I don't know if you are curious or trying to make some sort of strawman argument.

If you are curious, I am sorry I can't spill many details. But I have done a startup and several projects in the past, and am currently involved in a startup.

If you are implying I don't know anything because I haven't done it myself...well I guess I answered that.

I also have quite a few friends who have done startups to pull some anecdotal evidence from.

Re: Warning: Software Startups are Not as Easy as Everyone Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You left out the sentence that starts with "I learned on my own startup..." Why?

Can you rephrase that? I don't know if you are curious or trying to make some sort of strawman argument. If you are curious, I am sorry I can't spill many details. But I have done a startup and several projects in the past, and am currently involved in a startup. If you are implying I don't know anything because I haven't done it myself...well I guess I answered that. I also have quite a few friends who have done sta…

A straw man is a proxy, a fake, a stand-in for the real thing. So to make a straw man argument, I have to distort something you've said so that it becomes easier to refute. Feel free to explain how I can do this when your post is reproduced verbatim above mine.

You meant argumentum ad hominem (advanced by a loaded question, even!). Technically, it's not relevant to startups' degree of ease whether you've been successful as a founder or not, but it is valid for me to ask you to cite your evidence.

You claim to be an expert on startups based on evidence you can't reveal. That's a circular appeal to authority (yourself) established by an appeal to a higher power (all your friends' top-secret successes).

I don't want to be (too much of) a pompous ass here, but I get jumpy when people try to convince me of things that are both improbable and highly desirable.

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