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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by actionscripted »

shmerl wrote: post #152

About Australis: Good: * Menu bar is hidden by default on Linux and can be opened with Alt (that didn't work before). Bad: * Menu ("Firefox") button is still not movable for no obvious reason. * Reload/Stop button is now forced to be in the URL bar (before users had a choice where to place it). That's pretty annoying, it's very uncomfortable when Back/Forward and Reload buttons are so far apart. * Bookmarks button is…

> Reload/Stop button is now forced to be in the URL bar (before users had a choice where to place it). That's pretty annoying, it's very uncomfortable when Back/Forward and Reload buttons are so far apart.

My ONLY issue with FF 29. I prefer my back/forward buttons near stop/reload and for both groups to be near the middle after the URL/awesome bar.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by lurkinggrue »

conductor wrote: post #110
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing As a user, I want separate edit bars for separate functions. I don't want Google know everything I type (or mistype) in the address bar. When I type foobar in the address bar please give me anything that returned the web server at foo…

I had to separate that and disable all the searching on the address bar. I got sick of it not quite understanding what I wanted.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by lurkinggrue »

amarraja wrote: post #57
exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

It's the first thing I noticed changed, and the first thing I tried (and failed) to re-enable. I am part of the "don't like change" crowd, but normally just get used to it can carry on. This is the first functional change which actually made me a little angry! EDIT: Found this to restore just the addon bar: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/the-addon-bar... Nerdrage subsiding

I like change as long as I can turn off things that annoy. I do hate change that takes features away and unfortunately that is the current trends.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by DatBear »

epochwolf wrote: post #126
DatBear wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was little need to reference Apple though, as Firefox can do the exact same thing by pressing F11 (on Windows).

I disagree. The reference why Apple added Full Screen. Why did Apple make a Full Screen feature in their operating system? Minimalism and simplicity. Why does Firefox have a fullscreen option? Because most browsers had that option and it's a useful feature once in a while. Not a compelling reference.

Do you have a source for this, or did you just make up some reasons to justify mentioning Apple? ...

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by bsg75 »

fournm wrote: post #124
super_mario wrote: post #89

Fucking idiotic morons. Completely ruining what used to be a good browser. I've had enough of this shit. Every single updated has to fuck up my Pentadactyl experience. That's it. I give up. If I can't use Pentadactyl, I have 0 reason to use Firefox. Goodbye. I'm removing it from all my computers and never looking back.

I use Pentadactyl with it just fine in the Aurora channel and have since it first landed. Part of the problem, though, is that the guys at Pentadactyl messed with userChrome.css as part of the newest pentadactyl builds, which causes a TON of issues with other addons (especially anything that adds a toolbar). Vimperator doesn't do it, but ew Vimperator, so.

What are the reasons for your preference for Pentadactly over Vimperator?

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by supergauntlet »

CmdrKrool wrote: post #256
insertnickname wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, they also removed the ability to disable the navigation bar, which is very annoying for me because I use Vimperator. It can be removed by installing an extension, but I don't understand why they would remove this functionality.

You're right, and having read some other posts in this thread (CompuHacker) and taken another look, I see that the new "Customize" is more diminished in the new version than I previously made out. They're going more towards a fixed default look with permanently fused-together buttons and the like, and this kind of customization further pushed out to extensions.

I wonder if they'll add it back in time? Though I suppose if it's expendable then it's not a huge deal.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by chris_wot »

davexunit wrote: post #145
chris_wot wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it is that simple. If you can find them sending your keystrokes through any other means, then please download Fiddler and write a blog article with the results of your testing :-)

Fiddler is proprietary software. Just like I won't use Chrome, I won't use Fiddler either.

Then use Wireshark then. Sheesh.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by dublinben »

slacka wrote: post #231
mohamedattahri wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem for me is how memory-hungry this browser is. How can a single tab opened on HN use 500MB?

Firefox's memory usage has ballooned since FF 13. https://areweslimyet.com/ On my 512MB Raspberry Pi, this used to be FF's greatest strenth. Unfortunately the latest versions are getting nearly as bad as chrome. I wish Mozilla would focus on their strengths and put more resources back into their memshrink project.

You mean memory usage has increased slightly, after being dramatically reduced, while adding new features? They're doing better than most large projects.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by aluhut »

exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

I don't get it either. "Status 4 ever" didn't help either. But I found a way:

Get this addon:

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/classicthemerest...

Activate the "Bottombar Toolbar" by right clicking somewhere on the top space where the bars are.

Now you have a small bar down there. Open the new funky customization menue and drag the "Statustext"-Element down there.

The only problem is that you'll find your Start-Button above the text...

Somehow I find myself installing even more Add-Ons with every major UI "improvisation" to keep a useful UI. I wish it would be the other way around where you got standard and customized from there.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by BorisMelnik »

CompuHacker wrote: post #207

Where the hell is my forward button? Why does browser.tabs.onTop not mean anything anymore? Where's my refresh button? On the... right side, inside the Awesome Bar? Why isn't a separate button? Why can't I put the Home button back beside the Back button? Why is the back button permanently part of the Awesome Bar? Why does the Awesome Bar change shape and size to allow the forward button to exist? Why isn't the forwar…

>>Where's my refresh button?

Thank you! This has been driving me crazy. I like my toolbar controls to look like:

back | forward | home | stop | refresh

Yes I know all of the keyboard shortcuts, but I still like to mouse around when applicable and don't want to have to use precision to focus on 1 tiny 8 pixel refresh button on my 28" monitor.

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