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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by ajanuary » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 1:59 PM UTC

davidcollantes wrote: post #36

I have not downloaded it, so forgive me if it is there and I don't see it. Still no omnibar? Why a separated dedicated search field?

With an omnibar everything you type in your url bar gets sent to the search provider. Lots of people don't like that (I'm personally okay with it, so I use Chrome).

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by sergiunegara » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:01 PM UTC

exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

I so much agree with you. O hate the interface changes.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by zimbatm » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:02 PM UTC

INTPenis wrote: post #37

Am I the only one who's not comfortable with the fact that the "whatsnew"[1] page can activate my browsers menu with Javascript? [1] https://www.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/29.0/whatsnew/?oldvers...

Definitely raised an eyebrow. I don't know the implementation but it's looking for trouble.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by NathanKP » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:02 PM UTC

Overall I love the redesign, but I wish they would have compacted the top chrome a bit so it matches the height of other major browsers. Firefox has slightly taller chrome for no good reason, as seen in this picture:

http://i.imgur.com/BlPRitn.png

When I'm doing cross browser development I want my stuff to line up in all three browsers.

At least Firefox no longer has the heaviest browser chrome. Safari wins that dubious distinction now by keeping the tabs below the address bar.

I also noticed that Firefox finally added a better option to disable cache for one tab which will be very useful while developing:

http://i.imgur.com/Nc5eamq.png

It's still not as good as Chrome's ability to automatically disable cache while devtools are open, but its way better than what I had to do before, which was override the automatic cache management settings to limit cache to 0 MB of diskspace.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:02 PM UTC

Been using it for a few hours now. I hear a lot of complaints about the address bar having gotten bigger by a whole 10 pixels and the addons bar being gone, but honestly I think it's a great update. On a full hd screen I can't be bothered by the 1.1% increase in height and the addons bar has only annoyed me. Actually, it's a bit ironic to complain about 10px while at the same time complaining about an entire toolbar having disappeared.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by sehugg » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:03 PM UTC

I like it so far. Seems pretty responsive.

Firefox 28 had been crashing at least once a day for me (which is rare, I didn't have any crash logs since 2011) so I'm hoping they squashed whatever bug was causing that.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by amarraja » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:03 PM UTC

exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

It's the first thing I noticed changed, and the first thing I tried (and failed) to re-enable. I am part of the "don't like change" crowd, but normally just get used to it can carry on. This is the first functional change which actually made me a little angry!

EDIT: Found this to restore just the addon bar: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/the-addon-bar...

Nerdrage subsiding

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by abus » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:05 PM UTC

exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

I agree with you. There is an addon to correct it though:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemer...

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by chris_wot » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:05 PM UTC

davexunit wrote: post #35

WizzleKake wrote: post #26

The incessant rearrangement of the UI is why I switched to Chrome. Each time they change the interface, it is unclear to me what the benefit is to the user. I was fine with Firefox when it looked like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mozilla_Firefox_3.5.png

Speaking of things that don't benefit the user, Chrome is proprietary software (dare I say spyware) that sends your keystrokes to Google. I think Firefox's frequent UI changes pale in comparison.

Turn off search suggestions.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by danford » Tue, Apr 29, 2014, 2:05 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #12

Already using it. I am impressed with the updated supported on the developer tools, although Chrome DevTools still wins in tooling.

I've been on nightly for as long as I can remember and at this point I'd say I can't find any feature that Chrome has that I really need (as a web dev). I guess once you get used to one toolbox it's hard to switch. I'm also amazed at the speed at which firefox has caught up to chrome in this area. Chrome dev tools have some features that aren't in firefox yet, but firefox has some tools that aren't in chrome.

Where are the FF dev tools lacking for you?