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Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by danohuiginn »

bluerail wrote: post #160

I have been rethinking all the time when I am working on this (seriously, is this worth it).. Please let me know your suggestions.. a site which let's you to post what your typical day would be(tday).. the tday can be either in a view of a profession (ex., a typical day of a doctor in San Francisco, a typical day of an cab driver in Japan (location plays a major role of a professional)) or it can be a view of persona…

I like this, but I think it would work best as a subreddit. The work of building (and persuading people to use) a separate site would be a big distraction without real benefits.

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by fsainz »

fiatjaf wrote: post #144
fsainz wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ve working on an approach to tackle this problem. We saw that the burden of having to create a data structure - along with the need to attach it to a visualization - makes people post what they can as hacky html lists, if they get so far. We wanted to show people that they were in fact able to create structured contents, even if it was in a limited way, and we choose the analogy of file and folders since most peop…

I wouldn't know what to do with Pageboxes also (as I still don't know of what exactly I am talking about in the main comment in this thread), but my use cases for the general idea were two: - Online communities. For example, groups of students of some area, groups of pregnant women, groups of people who like tiny houses, groups of people who do geocaching, people who like to save dogs in the streets and give them to…

Yes, I was talking about Pagebox. The current version is more like a page builder with some structured data, but we've always dreamed of turning it into a "github of content data", if we can call it that. We are thinking of changing the interface and emphasize the ability to navigate and search, possible something like a mac finder / itunes style of dashboard.

I love the idea of helping build these community databases and make those contents searchable. I see a challange in the fact that this means adding another channel to discuss contents different than the one they already use, but the promise of making those contents easier to reach might make it worth it.

As for the blog problem, I'm in a similar situation. A blog seems to have some lifespan, and there are some raw contents that I would like to have available without worring about a domain name and the design decisions of CMS theme. I have my own particular "delicious", some comments about different articles, a bunch of photos, and many screenshots and mockups from the different projects I've been working on that I would like just to publish without fuzz (Ideally: add all my project folders. Done). It won't be as beautiful as those web portfolios but I don't need that, I want convenience, I don't like abondend blogs either and I have 3 or 4...

Reading these comments gets me really motivated, thanks!

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by fsainz »

rhythmvs wrote: post #150
fiatjaf wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't know what to do with Pageboxes also (as I still don't know of what exactly I am talking about in the main comment in this thread), but my use cases for the general idea were two: - Online communities. For example, groups of students of some area, groups of pregnant women, groups of people who like tiny houses, groups of people who do geocaching, people who like to save dogs in the streets and give them to…

I’ll have a closer look at Pagebox.es Long time ago, I mused¹ about these kind of things, then worked like mad on devising an implementation. Meanwhile, a side project I’ll take up again, one day. I love the idea of data blogging. Thinking more along the lines of what Freebase was doing (before Google smothered it), what Fluidinfo² originally intended to do, and what Silk³ seems to be doing best, right now. ¹ http://…

"data blogging" sounds awesome, never thought of those words. I'm pretty much addicted to RSS Feeds, for me there's no better way to access those contents. Being able to translate that experience to structured data would make very happy.

Reading your tumblr post, I think there is useful work to do on the points you mention: Collecting and List Making // Visualising Knowledge // Open Access. We need something simple enough to get the people who already know how to publish posts interested.

Silk is pretty good, and I never heard of Freebase. From wikipedia: "Freebase is a large collaborative knowledge base consisting of metadata composed mainly by its community members. It is an online collection of structured data harvested from many sources". I got to look into this, sounds beautiful.

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by fsainz »

fiatjaf wrote: post #142
fsainz wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ve working on an approach to tackle this problem. We saw that the burden of having to create a data structure - along with the need to attach it to a visualization - makes people post what they can as hacky html lists, if they get so far. We wanted to show people that they were in fact able to create structured contents, even if it was in a limited way, and we choose the analogy of file and folders since most peop…

If you're talking about https://www.pagebox.es I see it as a good competitor to Trello (I always thought of using Trello's API to build a simple idea-tree note-taking app, but their trees have depth limits, yours don't, so I could use yours), but, at the same time, I don't know if your site will be up and online for a long time, so I'm not sure if it is secure to put all my data there.

We've never compared ourselves to Trello, it makes me think that we could make the nestable lists more explicit and promote this note-taking use. As for how long we will last, it's always hard to say, but we won't take down the server, and in any case be assured that before that I'll help everyone to take every byte safely elsewhere, via zip, sql dump, csv, spreadsheet, plain html + css, written in clay tablets.. I mean, I'll be your export module, If you need me to programmatically push it to other service with an API I'll do it, trapping the contents of someone else makes me feel terrible.

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by fiatjaf »

fsainz wrote: post #165
fiatjaf wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're talking about https://www.pagebox.es I see it as a good competitor to Trello (I always thought of using Trello's API to build a simple idea-tree note-taking app, but their trees have depth limits, yours don't, so I could use yours), but, at the same time, I don't know if your site will be up and online for a long time, so I'm not sure if it is secure to put all my data there.

We've never compared ourselves to Trello, it makes me think that we could make the nestable lists more explicit and promote this note-taking use. As for how long we will last, it's always hard to say, but we won't take down the server, and in any case be assured that before that I'll help everyone to take every byte safely elsewhere, via zip, sql dump, csv, spreadsheet, plain html + css, written in clay tablets.. I m…

Now I'm thinking you could explore more the multi-useness of it. First, you expose an API for accessing the nestable lists from the browser (and other clients, but I like the browser), then various apps can be built on top of it, and they all could be accessed from the main site, such as:

- note taking

- server logs

- manual logs of events (I've seen these in use in lots of small business where some employee must log what happened in its turn)

- personal journal

- mixpanel-like thing

- analytics of any kind

- computer-generated logs of anything that doesn't need a full-fledgeded database and system of its own (I'm thinking specifically of the logs of people who used their password to open a dor we have in our building, that communicates via serial port with a server that stores that info, but very ineffienciently)

- (I'll keep thinking about it)

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by sarthakk »

charismaticfoo wrote: post #27

A bookmarking service, that not only saves any "interesting" links that you visit but also saves the data in that link for future search. The service should let you specify topics that you are interested in and will analyze every page you visit (with the exception of blacklisted pages) and put it into the appropriate bucket (topic), for future reference. It should also index the PDFs and word documents that are read…

Try ToRead.cc. It will mail you the contents of the page you are at, and allows you to add text to the mail that will be sent. I use filters and topic tags to classify any interesting links I find.

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by aspidistra »

coolsunglasses wrote: post #29
aspidistra wrote: post #18

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Something like Tent? https://tent.io

Are there any implementations or user-friendly frontend webapps designed to interoperate?

There was, at one point, a Twitter clone running at http://tent.is. But that now redirects to cupcake.io, which runs a tent hosting service.

There are some projects on the tent Github page but nothing with activity less than months old:

https://github.com/tent

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by stoev »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #119
stoev wrote: post #23

How about a search engine that bases its results on how unique the information is on every one of them. Every time I try to do an in-depth research on Google about some topic I open up 10 or 20 of the most relevant results, only to discover that at least 80% of the information is repeating itself in at least 50-60% of the pages. One could write a search engine that compares the contents, groups the articles that have…

The problem is lack of semantics. Computers don't understand the content of a web page or article, and you have to manually parse it and make sense of it. You'll find 80% of what you need in 20% of relevant pages, and the remaining 20% in the other 80% of pages. The semantic web is the solution. A system that understands content, understands what you know, and understands what you want. Then, all it has to do is show…

Yes, the problem won't be solved completely and you will still end up reading the same content more than once. But at least, by analysing the text the search engine could detect which articles are coming from the same source (e.g. inspired by the same press release or just telling the same news event over and over again) and group them accordingly. Currently, I don't feel like Google or other search engines are doing any of that (maybe they are, but if so, the results are not good enough).

Re: Ask HN: Idea Sunday

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Post by read »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #128
Thiz wrote: post #45

More privacy. A completely private social platform with messaging, email, timeline, blog, pics, docs, etc.

Less privacy. A completely transparent social platform with messaging, activity tracking, content management, knowledge storage, wishlist/preference/opinion management, idea generation, etc. You might not know yet, but privacy is the root of all evil, and the privacy madness has to stop. The more we hide, the more we have to hide. It's a never ending cycle. People don't see the world as it really is. They see the wor…

Please understand there's a right time for private secrets to be revealed. Reveal them too soon, when you are not ready yet, and it causes more harm than good.

> I have to wear a mask because everybody else does.

No you don't. It seems like this is the problem you are trying to solve. It's a subtle problem, in that norms sweep you easily, but it's solution isn't shooting down privacy.

Your comment would also be received better, particular the claims to what privacy is, if it contained citations to peer reviewed, published research.

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