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How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Air conditioning is a wonderful thing. And, often, cheaper and more environmentally friendly than the things described here.

Here are most of the suggestions from the link: - Have fan with a pan of ice in front if it pointed towards you - Keep a damp hand towel on your forehead - Put an ice pack under your neck - make a rice sock, put it in the freezer and then inside of your pillow - sleep nude - sleep in a 'spread eagle' position - take a cool shower, wet your face, run your wrists under the cold tap

Please correct me if I'm mistaken - How does an air conditioner use less energy than a fan turned on for the same amount of time? I did a quick search and most of the hits say that air conditioners use more power. (Here is one of the links that came up: http://www.todaysgreenconstruction.com/2008/07/battle-green-...).

Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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When it was 40C+ here in Seattle a couple of weeks ago, I simply went outside and slept there in a nice cool 30C+ weather.

If you have computers and electricity, by 10-11pm it will be significantly cooler outside so if you have a deck or roof or backyard, try sleeping there.

Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Air conditioning is a wonderful thing. And, often, cheaper and more environmentally friendly than the things described here.

Here are most of the suggestions from the link: - Have fan with a pan of ice in front if it pointed towards you - Keep a damp hand towel on your forehead - Put an ice pack under your neck - make a rice sock, put it in the freezer and then inside of your pillow - sleep nude - sleep in a 'spread eagle' position - take a cool shower, wet your face, run your wrists under the cold tap Please correct me if I'm mistaken - H…

You had to expend the energy to freeze the water. You probably did that with a freezer, which runs using a compressor just like an air conditioner, except that it has to get a lot colder.

I think you're still right that it comes out cheaper, though, because you'd be spending most of the freezer's energy output anyways.

Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Here are most of the suggestions from the link: - Have fan with a pan of ice in front if it pointed towards you - Keep a damp hand towel on your forehead - Put an ice pack under your neck - make a rice sock, put it in the freezer and then inside of your pillow - sleep nude - sleep in a 'spread eagle' position - take a cool shower, wet your face, run your wrists under the cold tap Please correct me if I'm mistaken - H…

You had to expend the energy to freeze the water. You probably did that with a freezer, which runs using a compressor just like an air conditioner, except that it has to get a lot colder. I think you're still right that it comes out cheaper, though, because you'd be spending most of the freezer's energy output anyways.

The freezes compressor will run longer if you stuff it with things that are not yet at the temperature of the rest of the stuff in the freezer.

This is also why it is a good idea to de-ice your freezer every now and then, keeping all that ice at a low temperature against the leakage through the walls of the freezer costs energy.

Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Many of these ideas are variations of an evaporative or swamp cooler. They work great west of the Rockies because of the lower humidity. They don't work very well at all east of the Rockies. Try a fan with some ice in August in Miami. You won't be hot. You'll be hot and wet. Better to just turn on your ac.

Re: How to Sleep Comfortably on a Hot Night

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You had to expend the energy to freeze the water. You probably did that with a freezer, which runs using a compressor just like an air conditioner, except that it has to get a lot colder. I think you're still right that it comes out cheaper, though, because you'd be spending most of the freezer's energy output anyways.

The freezes compressor will run longer if you stuff it with things that are not yet at the temperature of the rest of the stuff in the freezer. This is also why it is a good idea to de-ice your freezer every now and then, keeping all that ice at a low temperature against the leakage through the walls of the freezer costs energy.

I'm not so sure this logic makes sense -- in fact I think it might be entirely backwards.

I've always been under the impression that though you pay a penalty for freezing things the first time you put them in, thereafter a full refrigerator (and freezer) is actually much more efficient because it's more difficult to keep air cold than it is to keep any variety of items that are more dense. If we're talking about leakage, too, air obviously exits the freezer much more often than its contents do.

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